Honestly I don't know that you can have non embodied consciousness. These people are acting like they are replicating a thing that already exists, bur that's not the case. Everything we have ever come across that shows sentience, basically however you define it, is an organism of a sort and "consciousness is an adaptive aspect of that organism. I feel like asking a computer to convey is like asking a lake to talk. This isn't to say that I don't think it's possible for us to build synthetic consciousness in theory, only that what these people are marveling about is really order's of magnitude more simple than the simplest of organisms. Like our consciousness is FUNCTIONAL it serves a purpose as part if our totality, to separate that from being embodied, and even a brain in a jar is still embodied, seems like it's missing the point. Like to compare a software program that can just be slapped on whatever computer you want to human consciousness is a category error.
I think there's some kinda video game derived Matrix Brain thing going on here as well. Like at the end of the day a computer is a box that does math. Math isn't a force or element or particle or wave or whatever, it's a methodology used by humans to determine or predict various relationships between things. Math doesn't decide how anything works, it just describes it. All a computer does is Math and doing math doesn't change the world.
Honestly I don't know that you can have non embodied consciousness. These people are acting like they are replicating a thing that already exists, bur that's not the case. Everything we have ever come across that shows sentience, basically however you define it, is an organism of a sort and "consciousness is an adaptive aspect of that organism. I feel like asking a computer to convey is like asking a lake to talk. This isn't to say that I don't think it's possible for us to build synthetic consciousness in theory, only that what these people are marveling about is really order's of magnitude more simple than the simplest of organisms. Like our consciousness is FUNCTIONAL it serves a purpose as part if our totality, to separate that from being embodied, and even a brain in a jar is still embodied, seems like it's missing the point. Like to compare a software program that can just be slapped on whatever computer you want to human consciousness is a category error.
I think there's some kinda video game derived Matrix Brain thing going on here as well. Like at the end of the day a computer is a box that does math. Math isn't a force or element or particle or wave or whatever, it's a methodology used by humans to determine or predict various relationships between things. Math doesn't decide how anything works, it just describes it. All a computer does is Math and doing math doesn't change the world.
It would be pretty funny if scientists emulate a human brain only for it to just not work
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