When you actually start quoting Samir Amin to these people, they lose their goddamned minds.

I had someone telling me he was a Nazbol or "apologist for feudalism" (????) because he was exploring the differences between European feudalism and other tributary modes of production

I guess we're just supposed to post the "improve society somewhat" comic or the Monty Python bit where they find a commune of peasants living in pure filth