have to justify the attack on Lebanon somehow

also why don't we have a burning Israeli flag emoji?

  • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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    I have this and will post it over and over. Let go of accepting Zionist concern trolling and embrace Hezbollah thought. You are just accepting the Zionist conflation and giving into it. It’s false and you know it

    Your argument is basically “Zionists are right that Judaism is Zionism and Hezbollah and Ansarallah are anti-Semitic for burning flags with the Star of David”

    You know this argument sucks but some mod made some bad decision about it and now you are backed into a corner defending an undefendable argument we all know is false

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    • Mokey [none/use name]
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      11 months ago

      My first instinct is to agree with you, the scoldposts that don't say/add anything are very annoying but does it really matter if its the Israel flag or not?

      We all know what the substitute is for and no one can accuse this place of anti-semitism. No one here disagrees that Israel is a bad fucked up place.

      I think you should be free to keep posting burning flags and anyone who has an issue should talk to you about it, not hide behind mods.

      • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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        We all know what the substitute is for

        No, nobody even knows what the other 2 flags are and always have to ask. New users certainly don't know what those flags mean. Generation after generation of new user will have to go through this discourse about why Israel flag gets a special status and why isn't there a burning Israel flag, over and over, repeating the Zionist mythos to all who dare enter hexbear.

        It's stupid. Everyone here deep down knows I'm right and if I get banned for being hostile or whatever you all will know because I struck too close to the bone. I'm frustrated because people are acting dense as hell when it's obvious how this is just like the "anti-semitism scares" at Harvard and about "from the river to the sea", it's optics cuckholdry but people try to dress it up and defend it and it's bad faith

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        • theposterformerlyknownasgood
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          11 months ago

          While I agree with the sentiment that the special status of Israel in anti imperialist and anti racist discourse is absurd and was always absurd, there is a key contextual difference between edgy internet nerds defacing a symbol and the people the symbol is claimed to represent rejecting it.

          • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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            Ansar Allah is from Yemen, Israel doesn't claim to represent them. They rightfully destroy every zionist rag they see.

            Funny how the only one of these that worked even a little on you is the one of jews burning it when it shouldn't matter. Every human on Earth should have the honor of destroying a Zionist rag

            • theposterformerlyknownasgood
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              Im a different person and I'm responding solely to that image. Because I agree that Middle Eastern anti imperialists burning the Israeli flag is not antisemitic.

              • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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                Any anti-imperialist anywhere burning the flag isn't anti-semitic.

                It's not anti-semitic in Japan

                It's not anti-semitic in Venezuela

                It's not anti-semitic in Iran

                It's not anti-semitic in Africa

                It's not anti-semitic on Hexbear

                It's. Not. Anti-semitic. Period.

                Are these gentlemen in Caracas anti-semitic because they aren't jews or middle-easterners?

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                • theposterformerlyknownasgood
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                  11 months ago

                  If you were protesting for Palestinian rights or against imperialism and burned an Israeli flag, that would not be an act of antisemitism, no. The issue faced here is that a lot of antisemites use imagery like a burning star of David, and as a result jewish members of this community have said they're uncomfortable with making a burning Israeli flag emote, and I think forcing the emote maker to do so would not only be difficult but also just a weird act.

                  • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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                    you keep saying the same stupid zionist concern troll arguments over and over. i dont accept them as valid. I think your argument is spurious lib nonsense completely and wholly without merit, equally as useless and meaningless as "from the river to the sea makes me uncomfortable". If a user is being anti-semitic, they can be banned. Being anti-Israel is not anti-semitism, and even accepting that argument part way and hedging with it is the problem and shows the mods (and their defenders) disconnect from the arab world and the wretched of the earth. Any arab user on this site is going to be perplexed by this weird hangup you have and your weird caving to the zionist argument on this one topic. Why? Why cave? Why imply Hezbollah and Houthis are anti-semites?

                      • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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                        well i'm also an arab and if I saw anyone whinging about an israeli flag burning i would punch them in the face (I mean IRL, at a protest, if we are burning a zionist flag and someone came up and tried to get us to stop, that would not be tolerated)

                        • theposterformerlyknownasgood
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                          No you wouldn't. I don't believe you are violently unhinged. I think we should let this matter drop.

                          • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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                            If I was at a protest and me and the boys and burning American and Israeli flags, and somebody comes on and tries to stop us talking about how it "looks" yes they would violently be pushed away from it. In fact, something very similar happened last month at a local protest when the libs tried to put out the fires at such a thing. It's weird that the "official hexbear line" matches that of Egyptian comprador libs and not the enraged anti-imperialists. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills with how much of a lickspittle people in here are being and how white and opticsbrained they are

                    • theposterformerlyknownasgood
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                      11 months ago

                      I think you have wholly failed to read an argument in my post and have just projected what you would like to respond to unto it.

                      I have already said that I think the special status of Israel in anti imperialist discourse is absurd. What I told you now is that the person who makes the emotes doesn't want to, because of the history of the use of burning stars of David as antisemitic imagery, and forcing them would both be difficult and weird, to which you respond by saying that's the standard lib line. Most lib arguments aren't about the feelings of emote makers, that's not a normal conversation.

                      • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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                        11 months ago

                        I have already said that I think the special status of Israel in anti imperialist discourse is absurd

                        You say this, then in the very next post defend the decision to not have the emoji for some "special" reason, giving it a special status

                        • theposterformerlyknownasgood
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                          11 months ago

                          I suppose that accepting that the emote maker has no desire to do so is a special type of argument, but it's not the type of special you want it to be.

                          • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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                            11 months ago

                            Ultimately it's the same argument with an added layer to obfuscate it. Why does the emote maker have no desire to?