https://nitter.net/DiscussingFilm/status/1742188058001256615

  • unperson [he/him]
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    6 months ago

    You're thinking of the public domain as if Walt Disney had given us a licence to use a particular depiction of Mickey Mouse.

    It's not the case. It's hard to imagine after 100 years, but the character is now as free as Jesus, or Winnie the Pooh, or the three piglets. You can incorporate mickey into your story however you want, depict him however you like.

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      6 months ago

      Is that the case? The way it was explained to me is that Mickey Mouse the character is still under trademark, but the short film Steamboat Willie is what falls under public domain now. I was told as an example that one couldn't use Mickey Mouse as a logo, but could make derivative works of Steamboat Willie.

      • unperson [he/him]
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        edit-2
        6 months ago

        You can take Mickey from Steamboat Willie, make him wink, give him tie-dye shorts and pink skin, and use him as the logo Mickey Dishwasher Soap—you can't use him as is for a trademark because it's too generic.

        You can't use his ears for an animation studio or a TV channel because it's easy to confuse with Disney's trademarks.

        Trademarks are limited by category (which is why Apple Computer got into a lawsuit with Apple Records only after Apple Computer launched iTunes, before it was perfectly fair) and enforced on similarity. Also a trademark has to be distinct but doesn't have to be original, you can use a bitten apple as a trademark but you can't copyright that shape.

        Edit: another difference between trademarks and copyright is that you never lose the copyright, but you must keep enforcing a trademark. If you let your brand become the generic term for a product, if you let others use your mark without suing them, then you lose the rights over the name.