a few years ago i worked in a shitty little retail shop that was owned by two brothers i never met that lived in another state (the company owned a chain of these stores across 2 or 3 states, there were maybe 4 or 5 total stores). we used this ipad in a stand to clock in and out. you had to take a picture of yourself every time, which i despised. i had been there for maybe 7 months or so when one day i decided to look at the app that was like the user version of the app from the ipad. it had a record of all of my in and out times... and a record of every time they had been edited.

and edited they had been. every single shift, one of the two owners was shaving off between 1 and 15 minutes from clock out time. i brought it up with my manager, who i got along really well with, and got him to look at his. same thing. my other coworker, same thing. i went home and made a spreadsheet containing every single time it had happened for as far back as the records went. it ended up being something like $400 worth of time they had taken from me.

the next day i got a call from that owner, and he explained to me that he felt like i was taking too long to close the store, that it shouldn't take that long, and that he was sorry (sorry that he got caught!) and was going to add $200 to my next paycheck (half of what he stole), plus from now on all clock in and out times would be rounded to the nearest quarter hour, and asked me if that made it better.

i was in a pretty bad place at the time, financially and mentally, and for as terrible as that job was i did also kind of like it, and didn't think i could find anything better, so i accepted the money and the apology and let it go.

anything like that ever happened to you? did you do anything cooler than roll over like i did?

  • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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    6 months ago

    Small business stores are so bad for this shit, I've worked at two different ones, and have been wage thefted both times. Also, both hired me to do technical jobs (maintaining websites, hardware in store, etc.) and then just decided "nevermind we need more cashiers and floor sweepers etc. so you have to be that now"

    One of the stores was so bad on wage theft that he'd often "forget" to pay people or "put the wage rate in wrong" on fuckin' zendesk zenefits which is an automated system THAT HE HIRED ME TO SET UP AND MAINTAIN AND THEN LOCKED ME OUT OF so he literally had to be doing it manually and deliberately and covered his ass in the dumbest possible way. I talked to other employees about this, and literally nobody cared and everyone instantly rolled on it so I just quit after a couple months of trying to get people to organize.

    • g_g [they/them]
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      6 months ago

      yeah, although i'm not convinced that large corporations are all that much more innocent of this.

      the changing of roles/expectations from what you were hired on to do it always a huge red flag. i learned that one when i got hired to do a very specific computer/digital media job at one place and they told me I might "occasionally need to scrub the toilets" oh-shit

      • YearOfTheCommieDesktop [they/them]
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        6 months ago

        large corporations steal more money but are a little sneakier about it from wha I gather. or they just let low level managers take the fall by setting impossible expectations

      • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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        6 months ago

        Worked a retail job in high school where they completely flipped on me and all of a sudden all cleaning of the entire store was my job and mine alone. Hired as a cashier and was still expected to do cashiering in addition to all cleanup. Nobody else was expected to clean. I called the Labour Program so fast when they tried to get me to do Hazmat cleanup for minimum wage.

      • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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        6 months ago

        Large corporations do it via much more impersonal nickel and diming. Like they'll ensure that employee unpaid breaks are 30 minutes long, but the employee is expected to be back at their desk after 25 or else they'll be considered to be taking an hour long break and lose pay accordingly. Sometimes it can be as simple as just not giving employees increasing wages to keep up with inflation or lowballing people when they first start working there, promising raises that never manifest so you have employees working at an entry level wage 5 years after they started working there. very rare for it to actually be illegal in most of the west, they make sure it is all "above board"

    • the_itsb [she/her, comrade/them]
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      6 months ago

      literally nobody cared and everyone instantly rolled on it so I just quit after a couple months of trying to get people to organize.

      This has been my experience with every unjust working situation I've been part of.

      What does anyone ever do about this? How do you convince people to care when it's not safe to care?

      • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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        6 months ago

        The junction between "not safe to care" and "safe to not care" makes a lot of retail/customer service jobs difficult to organize. Children that are working there literally could not possibly give a fuck about anything that happens to them or anyone else. Adults who work there are in extreme precarity and fear for their income severely.