Do you... think that search engines other than google don't exist or something? And Chinese people have been operating without internet search engines this entire time? Do you think it's weird that you use an American technology company's name as a verb to describe a common action?
Jokes aside, I'm sure the high speed rail actually exists, but I'm taking a stab at the legitimacy of the statements from any Chinese source, since they're well known to spout lies.
Honest question, do you not find yourself being chauvinistic when you dismiss all Chinese media as lies until proven true, but accept all western media as truth until proven lies?
Conversely, the west did lie about WMDs in Iraq, swaying public opinion so as to launch an illegal invasion that resulted in a million Iraqi casualties, or the Gulf of Tonkin incident, and that doesn't damage credibility? How do you resolve the cognitive dissonance in your head?
*since they’re well known to spout lies according to western official, CIA sponsored thinktanks and western media.
What about the lies whestern media and western officials are well known to spout? Western media are infamous for lying about countries the US sees as rivals or ennemies, do these lies not make the narative about China at least a little bit suspicious to you?
I've been on the Wuhan->Guangzhou train and it was like 4 hours incl stops. It's roughly 1,000 KM (660 mi). Did the CPC somehow move the south coast of China inland northwards? I physically went from Wuhan airport to the ocean via train in less than 5.5 hours.
Like you're talking to the forum most likely to have visited China. It's not fucking North Korea, you can actually go there and get on the trains dipshit. Blanket dismissing all sources from China because some YouTubers told you to is just asking to be dunked on
China is using miniature black holes for folding space to hide their failing train system. Several high-ranking officials working on the "trains" were recently seen having been partially spaghettified, just real noodly-looking.
Holy crap you're right. How did I not see through all the CCP lies before now.
All of China's "economy" and "infrastructure" consists of photoshopped images that circulate the internet. Chinese people are so thoroughly propagandized that they don't realize that none of it is real.
It surely can't be that a boomer governmental worker reposts whatever he sees on wechat. It's the irrefutable proof of the nefarious CCP plan, which all 100 million members are privy to.
Woa! A promotional video containing CGI! This is something that litterally no institution or companie does!
The cars in car advertisement are almost always CGI and not the real thing, does that mean that Wolkswagens and Toyatas aren't real? No, of course it doesn't! That's stupid.
If you want to see the real thing, there are plenty of videos of China's high speed trains on youtube including of vloggers taking those trains, heck, you could go to the fucking country to see them with your own eyes.
So you're just a full-blown hyper paranoid conspiracy theorist who thinks that everyone in China is just trying to dupe you into thinking they've built trains?
I'm sure they tried making a maglev. But I'm also sure they used a larger budget than reported, reached lower speeds than reported, and quietly swept under the rug any complaints from locals whoms living spaces were torn down to make room to build this. This is how it always goes.
You can literally watch videos of the Shanghai Maglev, on YouTube, right now. It connects the city to the airport, and Shanghai is a major business hub, westerners go there all the time.
Always funny to me how you guys burned in your mind that China is ontologically bad so hard that you just throw accusation of lying without any evidence. You just suppose shit and don't see any problem because to you China is a bad evil country is self evident and so anything that potentialy corroborate this "truth" has to be true.
You can just google shanghai maglev, it makes the journey in about 8 minutes, sometimes less.
I've done this before with other "china experts" who believed such silly things as that Winny The Pooh was banned in China, but they never let reality get in the way of their pre-conceived notions, or examined how they got those erroneous views.
I would be fine with admitting that China is part of west Taiwan, rather than the opposite.
Here's a few more fun facts: the Pearl necklace failed, the skyline doesn't lie, the east sea belongs mainly to south east Asian countries, and painting your ground green doesn't fool anyone.
What statements exactly? That spraypainting mountains green and rolling out plastic leaves over barren cliffs isn't fooling anyone? Because it isn't.
Or that the sea disputes China has with its neighbors are overwhelmingly judged as China trying to grab land that doesn't belong to them? Because no one is backing China on this one.
Or that the Indian necklace of diamonds ended up surrounding the Chinese string of pearls? Because it did.
This is a decades long malicious disinformation campaign from Chinese ops. It is verifiably, 100% untrue and hasn't been true for a long time.
In 1993 the Legislative Yuan asked the Judicial Yuan to clarify what the official territory of the ROC is. Interpretation No. 328 ruled that the legislative intent of the term “inherent/existing” was specifically to avoid setting down precise boundaries, since the areas controlled by the ROC at the time were continually shifting with the tides of the Chinese Civil War. The interpretation thus held that the phrase is political question that cannot be assigned any fixed legal definition.
They officially declared Mongolia to be an independent country in 2002.
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Look, it's the usual
”You can't trust anything China says, it's all lies!” liberal cope 
Holy shit this level of
is just sad
Read post history lol
wait i replied to the wrong comment :(
You can google the two things I pointed out in my comment and see if they're true yourself. Or maybe you can't google it if you're in China, oof.
Do you... think that search engines other than google don't exist or something? And Chinese people have been operating without internet search engines this entire time? Do you think it's weird that you use an American technology company's name as a verb to describe a common action?
Are you suggesting that China built a massive railroad network, but is lying about having trains?
Real "Lets fake the moon landing on the moon" hours.
Does this look real to you? Posted by a Chinese official.
https://youtu.be/G9VZf4ISG-o
Some of us have ridden China's HSR lmao
I take it you've ridden the maglev too, then.
Jokes aside, I'm sure the high speed rail actually exists, but I'm taking a stab at the legitimacy of the statements from any Chinese source, since they're well known to spout lies.
go look for Saddam's WMDs
Lul
I'm Chinese, and I am making a statement: parpol has not had sexual relations with minors.
Call me out for lying please.
I assume having sexual relations when I was a minor, with someone my own age counts, so that means your statement is technically false.
But to clarify a little. I have issues trusting the CCP and Chinese media, not Chinese people.
Honest question, do you not find yourself being chauvinistic when you dismiss all Chinese media as lies until proven true, but accept all western media as truth until proven lies?
How about when China insisted the Ballon that was blown into US airspace was not for espionage, the western media on all fronts called it a spy balloon, then months later quietly admitted it wasn't spying?
Does that not increase the credibility of China/decrease the credibility of the west in your eyes, even a little?
What about the years of articles about social credit being some Orwellian nightmare, when China insisted it wasn't, and only after it was implemented did the west quietly admit that it was localised tracking for businesses to account for fraud and wage theft?
Conversely, the west did lie about WMDs in Iraq, swaying public opinion so as to launch an illegal invasion that resulted in a million Iraqi casualties, or the Gulf of Tonkin incident, and that doesn't damage credibility? How do you resolve the cognitive dissonance in your head?
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Lul
*since they’re well known to spout lies according to western official, CIA sponsored thinktanks and western media.
What about the lies whestern media and western officials are well known to spout? Western media are infamous for lying about countries the US sees as rivals or ennemies, do these lies not make the narative about China at least a little bit suspicious to you?
I've been on the Wuhan->Guangzhou train and it was like 4 hours incl stops. It's roughly 1,000 KM (660 mi). Did the CPC somehow move the south coast of China inland northwards? I physically went from Wuhan airport to the ocean via train in less than 5.5 hours.
Like you're talking to the forum most likely to have visited China. It's not fucking North Korea, you can actually go there and get on the trains dipshit. Blanket dismissing all sources from China because some YouTubers told you to is just asking to be dunked on
Sorry to have to tell you this, but you're actually a fake gif made by the evil CCP.
China is using miniature black holes for folding space to hide their failing train system. Several high-ranking officials working on the "trains" were recently seen having been partially spaghettified, just real noodly-looking.
Lul
OK, here is the official post on extwitter by the Chinese official:
https://twitter.com/zhang_heqing/status/1694029296606793949
Holy crap you're right. How did I not see through all the CCP lies before now.
All of China's "economy" and "infrastructure" consists of photoshopped images that circulate the internet. Chinese people are so thoroughly propagandized that they don't realize that none of it is real.
It surely can't be that a boomer governmental worker reposts whatever he sees on wechat. It's the irrefutable proof of the nefarious CCP plan, which all 100 million members are privy to.
That appears to be real infrastructure with fake CGI trains. Why this was done is beyond me.
Wait are you serious? I thought this was a bit.
Woa! A promotional video containing CGI! This is something that litterally no institution or companie does!
The cars in car advertisement are almost always CGI and not the real thing, does that mean that Wolkswagens and Toyatas aren't real? No, of course it doesn't! That's stupid.
If you want to see the real thing, there are plenty of videos of China's high speed trains on youtube including of vloggers taking those trains, heck, you could go to the fucking country to see them with your own eyes.
If instead of searchin/doing any of that you prefer taking at face value an acount from racist shitheads who see no problems with digging up litteral human remains from unmarked graves that's a skill issue on your part.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
So you're just a full-blown hyper paranoid conspiracy theorist who thinks that everyone in China is just trying to dupe you into thinking they've built trains?
I'm sure they tried making a maglev. But I'm also sure they used a larger budget than reported, reached lower speeds than reported, and quietly swept under the rug any complaints from locals whoms living spaces were torn down to make room to build this. This is how it always goes.
You can literally watch videos of the Shanghai Maglev, on YouTube, right now. It connects the city to the airport, and Shanghai is a major business hub, westerners go there all the time.
[citation needed]
Always funny to me how you guys burned in your mind that China is ontologically bad so hard that you just throw accusation of lying without any evidence. You just suppose shit and don't see any problem because to you China is a bad evil country is self evident and so anything that potentialy corroborate this "truth" has to be true.
More like honky-logically
Do NOT Google Robert Moses. Biggest mistake of my life
Can I get any sources for your ravings?
Here's a source from the World Bank
Over the past decade, China has built 25,000 km of dedicated high-speed railway—more than the rest of the world combined.
Even the high priests of capital cannot ignore what are basic facts of infrastructure.
"This is how it always goes (when we in the west do it, and there's no way those orientals could be better at anything than we superior Aryans)."
https://invidious.slipfox.xyz/watch?v=4-S7wqwgF1Q
You can just google shanghai maglev, it makes the journey in about 8 minutes, sometimes less.
I've done this before with other "china experts" who believed such silly things as that Winny The Pooh was banned in China, but they never let reality get in the way of their pre-conceived notions, or examined how they got those erroneous views.
Nauru is no longer on the list lol
go ahead, say that the world bank is not a real source. Say that they're in the pocket of the evil commies of the see see pee. Say it's run by tankies.
Because Taiwan is the Republic of China you absolute galaxy brain
Taiwan is not China.
lol this dumbass doesn't even know ROC from PRC
just pathetically desperate to maintain their chauvinism
I would be fine with admitting that China is part of west Taiwan, rather than the opposite.
Here's a few more fun facts: the Pearl necklace failed, the skyline doesn't lie, the east sea belongs mainly to south east Asian countries, and painting your ground green doesn't fool anyone.
reciting
phrases like prayers to Mammon
Cope is a synonym for true now, apparently, or do you offer any credible sources that disprove what I just said?
Don't worry, you can be honest here. I'm sure none of the little pinks in this thread will report you.
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What statements exactly? That spraypainting mountains green and rolling out plastic leaves over barren cliffs isn't fooling anyone? Because it isn't. Or that the sea disputes China has with its neighbors are overwhelmingly judged as China trying to grab land that doesn't belong to them? Because no one is backing China on this one. Or that the Indian necklace of diamonds ended up surrounding the Chinese string of pearls? Because it did.
You're going through all the most unoriginal bullshit pretty fast, next your
ass is probably going to say Winnie the Pooh or Tiananmen Square.
You can take the redditor out of reddit, but you can't take the reddit out of the redditor. Many such cases 😔
thoughts on the ROC's claims to Outer Mongolia?
Literally not even true.
This is a decades long malicious disinformation campaign from Chinese ops. It is verifiably, 100% untrue and hasn't been true for a long time.
In 1993 the Legislative Yuan asked the Judicial Yuan to clarify what the official territory of the ROC is. Interpretation No. 328 ruled that the legislative intent of the term “inherent/existing” was specifically to avoid setting down precise boundaries, since the areas controlled by the ROC at the time were continually shifting with the tides of the Chinese Civil War. The interpretation thus held that the phrase is political question that cannot be assigned any fixed legal definition.
They officially declared Mongolia to be an independent country in 2002.
and you expect me to believe some photoshopped document over years of historical proof that Taiwan consider Ulaanbaatar rightful Taiwanese clay?
okay sure thing. next you'll say something as ridiculous as Arunachal Pradesh is India.
also you forgot the bit about princeton press
I'm calling hbomberguy right now, this guy's going down for sure
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"Historical proof" They officially declared Mongolia independent in 2002, what else is there to say? Do you want another official statement?
As for India, I have no clue about their stance. India is irrelevant to this topic, and you're throwing whataboutism.
And yes, I copied some of the text from a Reddit post. It doesn't invalidate what I said.
What does the C in ROC stand for?
Tell that to Taiwan, who call themselves the Republic of China and consider themselves Chinese
The only people who think Taiwan is a separate and wholly independent country are dipshit Redditors
You can't be so stupid that you don't understand that Taiwan historically claims itself to be China
"The inscrutable and devious oriental cannot be trusted because of their duplicitous nature"
I was wondering why this post had so many replies, and lo and behold it's because of another one of these fucking ChatGPT instances.
Every fucking time.
It really does read like they asked a chatbot "help! The commies are making me think, give me excuses to ignore the things they're saying!"
Can I use this for a post where people ask me shit and I respond by asking a language model this prompt (modified to include their message)?
You can try. I don't think it would be any worse than the usual drivel libs produce.
Sounds good, can I credit you for the
memeidea?Nah, it's fine either way, I'm not fussed.
cum
Have they built any rails or trains at all? Who can say