https://lemmy.world/post/10897935

    • booty [he/him]
      hexbear
      84
      5 months ago

      Ooh, hell yeah. Literally thousands of people are defecting from the US every year. Failed totalitarian dictatorship my people yearn for freedom no food etc etc

      • @robinn_IV
        hexbear
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        5 months ago

        As of May 15, 2023, a total of 5,315 US citizens have renounced their US citizenship in 2023. This is a significant increase from the 2,390 US citizens who renounced their citizenship in 2022. [source]

        The number of North Koreans who defected to South Korea tripled last year, as the easing of border closures imposed during the Covid-19 pandemic encouraged students, women and diplomats to make the perilous journey. At 196

        Why would people want to leave the greatest, most democratic country on earth? Even in relation to population the DPRK is clearly more democratic and popular if this is the unit of measurement, and this isn’t even counting the second half of 2023 for the U.S.

        • bigboopballs [he/him]
          hexbear
          3
          5 months ago

          USA has 12 times their population but 27 times (per capita) citizen renouncement rate.

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
      hexbear
      24
      5 months ago

      It costs money to renounce US citizenship, make of that what you will. I think it's like $500, but I'm not sure.

        • RedDawn [he/him]
          hexbear
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          edit-2
          5 months ago

          You’d also have to pay exit taxes on any assets you’re bringing with you when you go, I think. I think financially the costs of renouncing far outweigh the benefits, most people who emigrate to live in other countries never renounce their citizenship.

          • emizeko [they/them]
            hexbear
            5
            edit-2
            5 months ago

            all your assets. not just the ones you take with you

            The US Exit Tax, or Expatriation Tax, is levied on individuals renouncing their US citizenship or green card. Governed by IRC Section 877A, this tax is specifically designed for high-net-worth individuals. It ensures that their worldwide income and assets are taxed prior to exiting the US tax system.

            EDIT: the statute is at https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/877A

          • keepcarrot [she/her]
            hexbear
            4
            5 months ago

            What a weird way to run things. I renounced my Japanese citizenship because the Japanese Foreign Ministry was harrassing my mum about it, and we did have to go to the consulate and fill out a frankly miniscule amount of paperwork and pay no money.

            • @DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
              hexbear
              2
              5 months ago

              US citizens are required to pay taxes to the US even if they don't live in the country anymore. That's why they do it like this.