skip past the drama at the start to the part where he gets to mega banning this guy's account for sharing known CSAM and why it's definitely CSAM.

yes, Mutahar is a liberal and his takes about cops are annoying. and yes, he buried the lede.

  • AlicePraxis [any]
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    5 months ago

    I always figured that most of these self-ascribed "pedo hunter" guys are projecting hard.

    Besides I can't imagine their methods of "pedo hunting" are of any consequence — most child abuse doesn't happen from creepy randos on the internet. Usually the abuser is someone the victim trusts, like a family member, a teacher, a religious leader, or a public figure with a large fanbase made up of children (like a YouTuber, for example...)

    • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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      5 months ago

      Pedo hunter content is just acceptable sadism and humiliation fetish videos, really.

      Wouldn't precisely call them two sides of the same coin but pedo hunters and other sadists like those monkey torture freaks absolutely see each other at the family reunion, so to speak.

      • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
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        5 months ago

        Pedo hunter content is just acceptable sadism

        There's a who type of guy (well usually a guy) who will take any excuse to tell everyone in close proximity their very gory and detailed fantasies about what they would do to pedophiles. Hell the entire movie "The Human Centipede" was inspired by the directors fantasies about what he'd like to do to pedos. And to an extent I get it since pedophiles are absolute scum, but I think most times these guys aren't really all that motivated by empathy for the victims or a desire for brutal justice, but more because they just have very violent fantasies and pedophiles are the one group most everyone agrees merits that treatment. I've heard more than a few stories about guys like that turning out to be creeps in their own right, and even when they're not they are still very aggressive and offputting.

        While I get it I don't think it's a particularly healthy or productive impulse to indulge in. As despicable as pedophiles are I still think we live in a civilization that should try to punish people in balanced and humane ways and not give over to violent impulses, even when it's righteous.

        • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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          5 months ago

          My gut feeling is that if you satisfy what I believe are actual sadistic desires and pleasures with "justifiable" victims, then you are nearly always more likely to assume guilt when the possibility is presented so that you can indulge sadism again.

          You gotta be like extremely self aware and self controlled to not let desires like that slip and affect your everyday moral judgements, and even if you are capable of that, I think its blanket unethical and immoral to indulge sadism with real human suffering.

        • D61 [any]
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          5 months ago

          Its more important to "hurt the bad guy" than to "help the victim".

    • silent_water [she/her]
      hexagon
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      5 months ago

      yeah, this guy's MO, as I understand it, was to turn it into an ARG - frequently against innocent victims. this all started because he tried to clickbait his audience into going after a larger youtuber for... not responding to his DMs? idk, I can't be assed to watch hours about it to understand. he seems like a cloutgoblin who caught the truck.

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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      5 months ago

      They’re not of consequence. Cops always say that you shouldn’t do any of that shit because most of it is inadmissible in court. Especially when the “pedo hunters” get aggressive and start getting physical because their ego gets bruised over insults. They’re literally making communities more dangerous because they don’t go through official channels so prosecution becomes harder