saying something this edgy does not absolve you of bigotry

edit: for anyone stumbling into the drama, i probably should have elaborated on this post. I am not saying you can't make fun of white people not being able to eat spicy food or anything, but at some point it becomes self-flagellating. to quote comrade RedQuestionAsker:

It's good to challenge white supremacy in all of its incarnations at all time. It's certainly good to refuse to be proud to be white considering what the concept of whiteness is.

It's another thing to performatively hate yourself in a cocktail of millennial self-deprecation and liberal white guilt. It's not revolutionary, and it's probably not good for you.

that is all. comrades just know i dont hate any of you. i'm not trying to start a slapfight. i just saw this as weird performative behavior and wanted to call it out.

  • rootsbreadandmakka [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    idk, where else can we say that? Like if we say that anywhere else we're just gonna be shouted at by a bunch of liberals and accused of reverse racism. The charge that it's trying to absolve oneself of their own complicity in the racial hierarchy is a valid one, but it also is a genuine sentiment among white people especially on the left, and even among those apolitical people who have yet to realize that what they mean when they complain about "the man" or "society" is white bourgeois society and values. It's a wholly emotional statement, and obviously "fuck white people" isn't a basis for organizing or political action, but this is a shitposting site at heart and I think it's fine if white people want to vent about their fellow hwhytes every now and again.

    (I say this as a white person)

    • PapaEmeritusIII [any]
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      10 months ago

      Maybe white people don’t need to say everything that’s on our minds

      • rootsbreadandmakka [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        the post that I assume this is referring to had an edgy title, but really it was just complaining about white people on reddit calling for the extermination of homeless people, as is so common on reddit-logo. Seems fine to say fuck white people in response to that.

        • PapaEmeritusIII [any]
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          10 months ago

          There have been more posts than just that one recently. Some of them more jesse-wtf than others

          • rootsbreadandmakka [he/him]
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            10 months ago

            The only other one I'm aware of was the fuck skiing post. Which yeah I agree was a little weirder, but for reasons that goes beyond the basic sentiment of "fuck white people." Complaining about white people on this site has been common since day 1 and I don't think it should be considered controversial to complain about white people, even coming from other white people. White people should of course recognize their own complicity in the racial hierarchy, I don't believe that precludes them from complaining about white people, especially when it's a valid criticism. The complaint about how white people react to homeless people is valid, the complaint about skiing maybe not so much - but that's a difference that has nothing to do with the basic sentiment of fuck white people.

    • idkmybffjoeysteel [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      also is a genuine sentiment among white people especially on the left

      I am so done with how blatantly racist the average whitey seems to be, if they're a lib or at work sometimes it takes a while for the cracker to break out, but other times people will just start rambling their stupid racist opinions at you at the first opportunity; and that's disregarding the fact that up to 50% of them would repeatedly vote for a white supremacist party while consuming the most vile media imaginable

      White people hate can still occasionally offend me like when it crosses into gross generalisations about white people being dirty, that just makes me think fuck you, you're a chauvinist yourself, but I see that more on TikTok than on here

      You know what's similar though, I say I hate men, I say we should kill all men all the time, I can't stand how stupid and misogynistic everyone is, even the better ones, and like white people, they make everything about themselves when anyone tries to explain their harmful behaviour

      But also don't kill me possum-party

      • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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        10 months ago

        I'm non white and a man and I like the white jokes and I also agree that men are disgusting

        I think I'm pretty consistent here