I don't want to detract from the main line of discussion here, but I find this to be a weird hangup. It's been a normal thing since at least Facebook's founding for social media sites to list the user's gender. I kind of wish there was a more elegant solution in broadly-understood culture, but I think listing how the user would like to be referred to if you discuss them in the third person is, if anything, far less invasive with labeling than the common alternatives (including not including such information, which produces endless little worthless discursive circles of "actually I'm not a he" from assuming everyone on the internet is a man).
This begins with acknowledging that some people don't fit into a neat binary category, if they even identify with the spectrum at all
The point isn't to form cliques, the point is acceptance. If one claims to support trans rights, but then misgenders that person and refuses to acknowledge how they would like to be referred, then one is not supportive of trans rights
Well, I’m here to be rational and have a nice discussion. Maybe we can work through that?
If you don’t mind me asking: what do you ID as politically? Believe it or not we won’t ban you just for not being marxist-Leninist. We tolerate all sorts of liberals.
What do you mean by pronoun push? Hexbear had a pronoun field, yes. We respect the pronouns people ask us to use, yes. We are never going to force you to use or ID pronouns for yourself. Our site explored has “none/use name” as an option. I personally use the comrade option, because I think that’s nifty and wish it existed irl.
It matters to people like me, who are trans and worked very hard for our gender identities. In addition, it helps to combat the assumption that everyone on the internet is male; which can be really harmful for people who aren't. Also it scares people who aren't LGBT friendly.
How do you understand those terms? I get the feeling we understand them very differently.
As for the second part: we insist upon them being visible because that’s the only way to guarantee nobody is accidentally misgendered. We take the well-being of ALL our comrades seriously here.
If you feel similarly about taking care for those around you, maybe you should stick around a while and see that whatever you consider “communism” is mostly just truly caring about the vulnerable. That’s what we are here for, mostly. Caring about people.
Name a leftist forum that would do that to you and I’ll invoke the “no true marxist” defense. /joke
It legitimately displays a childlike understand of the world to ignore material reality in favor of vibes. /not joke
Furthermore, I invite you to hang out in our news comm. you’ll find people who actually investigate the root causes of current events there.
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I don't want to detract from the main line of discussion here, but I find this to be a weird hangup. It's been a normal thing since at least Facebook's founding for social media sites to list the user's gender. I kind of wish there was a more elegant solution in broadly-understood culture, but I think listing how the user would like to be referred to if you discuss them in the third person is, if anything, far less invasive with labeling than the common alternatives (including not including such information, which produces endless little worthless discursive circles of "actually I'm not a he" from assuming everyone on the internet is a man).
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To people who have spent their entire life being misgendered, it is
A single moment of positivity can outshine half a dozen moments of negativity
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This begins with acknowledging that some people don't fit into a neat binary category, if they even identify with the spectrum at all
The point isn't to form cliques, the point is acceptance. If one claims to support trans rights, but then misgenders that person and refuses to acknowledge how they would like to be referred, then one is not supportive of trans rights
Be better
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You don't get to decide that
Well, I’m here to be rational and have a nice discussion. Maybe we can work through that?
If you don’t mind me asking: what do you ID as politically? Believe it or not we won’t ban you just for not being marxist-Leninist. We tolerate all sorts of liberals.
What do you mean by pronoun push? Hexbear had a pronoun field, yes. We respect the pronouns people ask us to use, yes. We are never going to force you to use or ID pronouns for yourself. Our site explored has “none/use name” as an option. I personally use the comrade option, because I think that’s nifty and wish it existed irl.
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I’ll fight you. We shall use foil fencing rules with scrolls of Kapital Vol. 1 rolled up like swords as we duel.
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It matters to people like me, who are trans and worked very hard for our gender identities. In addition, it helps to combat the assumption that everyone on the internet is male; which can be really harmful for people who aren't. Also it scares people who aren't LGBT friendly.
How do you understand those terms? I get the feeling we understand them very differently.
As for the second part: we insist upon them being visible because that’s the only way to guarantee nobody is accidentally misgendered. We take the well-being of ALL our comrades seriously here.
If you feel similarly about taking care for those around you, maybe you should stick around a while and see that whatever you consider “communism” is mostly just truly caring about the vulnerable. That’s what we are here for, mostly. Caring about people.
Not sure what I'm allowed to comment, mods here keep removing my shit.
Ah well so much for all that
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I've a question for ye, then, in regards to foreign policy?
is there such thing as the West, in political terms?
If so, is there also the Global South?
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The West includes Australia et New Zealand, right?
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Ah okey...
Aaaand they’re gone