Did the Afghan revolution reset the progress for Arab/Islamic socialism? The US went hard shilling for Islamic fundamentalism in order to combat the country, and many of the Christian politicians would even invoke God when speaking to Muslims as if they shared the same religion lol. Even then, the revolution was just horrendous and the leader was likely a CIA plant. All of that culminated in the Soviet invasion which essentially cemented socialism as an occupier’s ideology for a lot of Arabs and Muslims, even if they’re sympathetic to Russia today.
Most of the Muslims I know in the US claim to be devout and as a result, still largely conservative, even the young ones. Practically every other practicing religious person I know has some kind of exception for even the strictest rules. But for Muslims it’s largely conservative. The only exceptions are usually female Muslims and male Muslims who casually observe. It’s pretty interesting to see, and also a bit funny because the Muslim guys at my school usually do not engage with any of the Muslim girls outside of required academic work, but they’ll engage with non Muslim girls
Gaddaffi was a bizarro ‘socialist’ and likely worked with the CIA until they realized he had his own ambitions.
Generally if you're a strict observer of your religion that's gonna come with some conservatism. Most non casual Christians, jews etc tend to be pretty conservative cause being a strict follower of something over 1000 years old isn't going to lead to progressivism. It's hardly unique. If it's something you're observing at your school then it's probably your sampling group. I live in a town with 3 universities and the people who can afford to be sent abroad to college also tend to come from wealthy families who have maintained there wealth or gained it sometimes throughout all of this turmoil. It's a class thing, not a religion thing. Rich people are more conservative.
I've made it a point before, but marxism being perceived as anti-religion or an idelogy that persecutes religious observance is a legitimate barrier to a lot of otherwise very reachable people. Like, I know quite a lot of very religious people, and none of them will even contemplate anything like organizing with the left, because they believe that if the left comes into power, their mosque will get shut down and they will be thrown in jail. They will agree with anything I say about the nature of imperialism, liberalism being hollow, the concept of human rights being mostly western mental masturbation, as well as other ML critiques, but they still bristle like an animal the second you mention anything about AES, or socialism in general.
Did the Afghan revolution reset the progress for Arab/Islamic socialism? The US went hard shilling for Islamic fundamentalism in order to combat the country, and many of the Christian politicians would even invoke God when speaking to Muslims as if they shared the same religion lol. Even then, the revolution was just horrendous and the leader was likely a CIA plant. All of that culminated in the Soviet invasion which essentially cemented socialism as an occupier’s ideology for a lot of Arabs and Muslims, even if they’re sympathetic to Russia today.
Most of the Muslims I know in the US claim to be devout and as a result, still largely conservative, even the young ones. Practically every other practicing religious person I know has some kind of exception for even the strictest rules. But for Muslims it’s largely conservative. The only exceptions are usually female Muslims and male Muslims who casually observe. It’s pretty interesting to see, and also a bit funny because the Muslim guys at my school usually do not engage with any of the Muslim girls outside of required academic work, but they’ll engage with non Muslim girls
Gaddaffi was a bizarro ‘socialist’ and likely worked with the CIA until they realized he had his own ambitions.
Generally if you're a strict observer of your religion that's gonna come with some conservatism. Most non casual Christians, jews etc tend to be pretty conservative cause being a strict follower of something over 1000 years old isn't going to lead to progressivism. It's hardly unique. If it's something you're observing at your school then it's probably your sampling group. I live in a town with 3 universities and the people who can afford to be sent abroad to college also tend to come from wealthy families who have maintained there wealth or gained it sometimes throughout all of this turmoil. It's a class thing, not a religion thing. Rich people are more conservative.
I've made it a point before, but marxism being perceived as anti-religion or an idelogy that persecutes religious observance is a legitimate barrier to a lot of otherwise very reachable people. Like, I know quite a lot of very religious people, and none of them will even contemplate anything like organizing with the left, because they believe that if the left comes into power, their mosque will get shut down and they will be thrown in jail. They will agree with anything I say about the nature of imperialism, liberalism being hollow, the concept of human rights being mostly western mental masturbation, as well as other ML critiques, but they still bristle like an animal the second you mention anything about AES, or socialism in general.