Not in Marvel, they are literal government agents employed and sponsored by the state. Captain America is the establishment. Ironman is the establishment. Batman works with cops and is just a glorified corrupt cop, he’s the establishment as well.
Billionaires aligned with the state cannot possible be more establishment than they are
I was gonna caveat batman or at least how he's been handled for the last 20 years or so, I'm down with an animated series style batman, or even the arkham games went with where I'm down to forgive the problematic parts of batman if the camp level is high enough to allow me to. Then it's like, okay, fine, you're being a bit silly. Frank Miller and epitomizing with Nolan taking it fully seriously is when it becomes a problem for me. I haven't seen any marvel movies aside from the guardians of the galaxy movies and Thor Ragnarok, so I generally still think of superheroes as like...spider man or something. A guy with a working class secret identity usually up against well funded bad guys. Oh, I also watched the Netflix daredevil, that was good too. I've got some selective superheroe ignorance due to choosing not to watch movies I know I won't like.
Basing your analysis of superhero movies on non-Marvel films is like basing your analysis of Gangster movies on non-Scorsese films, and excluding The Godfather and Scarface. You are excluding by far the most prominent examples of the genre and cherry-picking outliers
Not in Marvel, they are literal government agents employed and sponsored by the state. Captain America is the establishment. Ironman is the establishment. Batman works with cops and is just a glorified corrupt cop, he’s the establishment as well.
Billionaires aligned with the state cannot possible be more establishment than they are
I was gonna caveat batman or at least how he's been handled for the last 20 years or so, I'm down with an animated series style batman, or even the arkham games went with where I'm down to forgive the problematic parts of batman if the camp level is high enough to allow me to. Then it's like, okay, fine, you're being a bit silly. Frank Miller and epitomizing with Nolan taking it fully seriously is when it becomes a problem for me. I haven't seen any marvel movies aside from the guardians of the galaxy movies and Thor Ragnarok, so I generally still think of superheroes as like...spider man or something. A guy with a working class secret identity usually up against well funded bad guys. Oh, I also watched the Netflix daredevil, that was good too. I've got some selective superheroe ignorance due to choosing not to watch movies I know I won't like.
Basing your analysis of superhero movies on non-Marvel films is like basing your analysis of Gangster movies on non-Scorsese films, and excluding The Godfather and Scarface. You are excluding by far the most prominent examples of the genre and cherry-picking outliers
But in doing so I don't have to watch bad movies. So...I still win.
True but maybe sit the superhero movie discussions out.
No