Bad guy makes good points
Bad guy subsequently commits mass murder for no reason, beyond shitty writers not wanting audiences to identify with them
Honestly, it's tiring seeing all the bad comic book tropes popping up in film
Means I have to suffer through them twice
Also, if they ever make Magneto start putting people into concentration camps again, I will stab a motherfucker
They're not concentration camps, that wasn't a genocide and magneto was just the adult in the room who has to make all the tough decisions
This was an excellent way to articulate what I've felt about much of the entertainment media landscape, much appreciated
And all 60 years of the Bond movies. But I guess the rebels Bond faces tend to be even more fascist than
so they probably wouldn't appreciate those...In multiple movies they're straight up marxists that are being depicted as corrupt. All the south american ones in particular.
Or that time when all the black ppl in America were part of an evil voodoo conspiracy against Bond. Its almost a 50/50 toss up whether the villain is commies/former commies or stereotypical scary minorities tbh
I'm not familiar with James Bond stuff besides vaguely him being a chauvinistic sociopathic britbong spy that crackers love. Which book/movie had the voodoo conspiracy? Because holy shit that is a ludicrous premise!
73's "Live and Let Die" - its a fuckin trip. It also establishes that voodoo curses and the lwa Baron Samedi are 100% real and 100% magical in James Bond so...theres that lol
Just the Disney ones, the X-Men movies are mostly cool even if they were made by a monster
The Department of Defense literally has entire department dedicated to producing movies where the establishment is correct
I was with the rebels until they blocked rush hour traffic to protest the empire destroying entire planets. I mean, I work from home so it doesn't personally effect me, but that's how they alienate the working class and that's how Darth Vader wins the next election.
but when the freighter pilots were clogging the Lagrange points of Coruscant, they were uniting the working class against the shadow Aldaranian government's agenda.
Ironically, probably the best example of this is Star Trek, where "the establishment" is commie as fuck.
That one is an actually good moral dilemma. The Federation is doing realpolitik by conceding a relatively small number of systems to the Cardassians, in an effort to forestall a massive genocidal space war.
Unfortunately this means letting loose a bunch of spoon-headed space Nazis upon... A colony largely comprised of Native Americans who had left Earth likely before the Federation even existed, or right about the same time.
Twitter globe man wants a Cardassian Repetitive Epic:
The Never Ending Sacrifice was generally regarded as the genre's greatest example, as a novel depicting seven generations of the same family, all of whom selflessly dedicate their lives to serving the Cardassian state.
We should do one of those "Who said this, a Nazi or a Zionist" style quizzes but for Twitter liberals and Gul Dukat.
Eh, they settled those planets less then a generation ago. Sure the Cardassians are fascists but also your home nation is a massive post scarcity society than can easily resettle you on one of their hundreds of planets. They're basically trying to continue a bloody war cuz they got sentimental about a place they moved, it's not like their ethnic homeland of anything.
Right, Maquis always did given me strong vibes of Wild West settlers and sovereign citizens, and the Native American characterisation of Chakotay added a layer of hammer action to that.
When I say Maquis I am also thinking of the types of Bajorans we see like in Ensign Ro, who are opposing the treaty. We know Bajorans joined the Maquis, and the Badlands served as refuge for Bajorans during the occupation. Maybe I over emphasized it in my head when watching, but I always assumed the colonies the Maquis come from include some entirely or majority Bajoran settlements. We know Bajor had colonies and they fell into Cardassian control, and that a great deal of Maquis are former Starfleet moved not by being from the Federation colonies, but from witnessing the Cardassians' war crimes. We saw how awful the refugee camps are, so there being established colonies that are now under Cardassian control would be another motivation. Free, isolated, already built colonies for the huge number of refugees. That and we don't know how recent those Federation colonies are, or even if they are ones formed by the Federation, or ones given Federation membership before losing it due to the DMZ.
In fact Journey's End was initially going to either be Maquis in place of the Native American colony, or they would be introduced as a comparison, the statements are unclear. This did get picked up on later, obviously with Chakotay, but also the Native American Maquis in "Preemptive Strike". The Val Jean obviously had several Bajoran crewmembers.
The Marquis would be cool if the entirety of star trek was located on a single planet. Stretching the concept of Indigenousness to the stars like this is nobel savage type shit that also allows colonizer societies to larp as the colonized without really exploring how that would change them as a people.
It's also dumb cuz they already did it with Bajor. Could have just had some flashback scenes were Star Fleet officers defect to aid the Bajorian guerrillas, and how the Federation deals with these guys after the war cuz on one had they did disobey orders and break the Prime Directive, but also now Bajor is an ally of the Federation against Cardassia and court marshalling guys who are now heroes in the Bajorians eyes probably ain't a good idea.
They sorta approach that with Ro but never commit. I think as complex as DS9 is, it never squares that circle between Bajoran resistance and the Maquis, despite the fact that we know the Maquis operate from Bajoran colonies, and have Bajoran members, and that the Bajoran resistance used Federation colonies in their fight. Separating them into mostly federation colonists was a stupid move. Just make them more pronounced as including Bajoran colonies and play up the idea that the Badlands created diverse communities.
For instance the Maquis have a significant contingent of Native Americans, because they went to these colonies to gain a separate homeland. They are not purely random colonists. Also I don't think any Maquis was a colonizer, colonizer and colonist are distinct things. The identity of the people on those worlds is different to say Rhodesians inherently. Again they include Native Americans trying to make a new home, and seemingly communities of Bajoran colonies and refugees from the occupation.
The problem is they killed the plotline and Voyager NEVER did anything with them
Good point, we need more fiction where communist states battle fascist insurrectionists
Need a biopic about Venezuelan fisherman cooperating with the state to own American mercenaries.
Guy with a Ukraine flag emoji
Sorry, losers, but the people with the biggest army are always right
Establishment fans in 40 years when Russia annexes eastern Ukraine and they become the establishment in that area/wasteland devastated by years of forever war:
You don't think they'll just get behind President Tanden and support Russia because now it's China that's interfering with the government?
"Russian is out biggest ally in the region, and since they snatched up all of the equipment we just left in
ukraineRussia, I guess we shouldn't poke the bear"
That's literally the Nolan Batman movies, but especially Dark Knight Rises.
Also it was hilarious how in DKR the thousands of cops who have been kept in the sewers for like 6 months emerge from them only slightly scruffy and ready for hand to hand combat.
And once out of the sewers they all walk in a straight line to the bad guys, who have tanks and guns pointed at them. They don't even have a plan or secret weapon. They just charge straight into gunfire in a pig square.
But that's their natural habitat, maybe except of lack of donuts, or at least not previousy used donuts.
Cops are too fucking dumb to even hunt for donuts in the donuts natural habitat
Just turn on the news, it's already spun that way and you don't gotta hurt your brain by thinking critically.
all right, cool, let's have some american civil war movies where the rebels are not depicted with kid gloves but shown to be the rapist mass murdering inhuman demons they were, and the establishment rides in and kills them in droves. no complexity, just a marvel level kill them all.
an isekai where a real old bolshevik is sent back in time to replace sherman and so when this timeline's sherman marches to the sea, he really doesnt pussyfoot around, but actually does what the slavers claimed he did.
or better yet, it start with che facing the fascists who killed him, except he gets isekai'd to mid 1800's US and turns into based-sherman
Read some books about history recently. Good thing the good guys won every time, I mean, what are the odds?
Cop media, superhero media, spy media. It’s all the establishment crushing a strawman rebel
Mission impossible the latest had an anarchist bad guy who wanted to nuke a refugee camp
Somewhere, Steven Segal is crying into a DVD bargain bin
