I was gonna caveat batman or at least how he's been handled for the last 20 years or so, I'm down with an animated series style batman, or even the arkham games went with where I'm down to forgive the problematic parts of batman if the camp level is high enough to allow me to. Then it's like, okay, fine, you're being a bit silly. Frank Miller and epitomizing with Nolan taking it fully seriously is when it becomes a problem for me. I haven't seen any marvel movies aside from the guardians of the galaxy movies and Thor Ragnarok, so I generally still think of superheroes as like...spider man or something. A guy with a working class secret identity usually up against well funded bad guys. Oh, I also watched the Netflix daredevil, that was good too. I've got some selective superheroe ignorance due to choosing not to watch movies I know I won't like.