I haven't seen so much effort put into a set in years. This would decent if it wasn't so damn propogandistic. Of course the message is "communism hates science".

From the Netflix science-fiction series Three Body Problem

  • AutomatedPossum [she/her]
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    5 months ago

    Haven't seen the Netflix adaptation, but portraying the red guards during the cultural revolution as anti-science goons that beat up physics professors for teaching Einstein is already in the book, and that view of them is in fact the official party line under Dengism. The cultural revolution was at its core a struggle session between the left and the right wing of the party about whether to exterminate any and all vestiges of reactionary thought in the PRC or whether to search a policy of equidistance between the USSR and the USA and then open up the economy and integrate the country into capitalist world trade to develop its productive forces. As we see today, the faction that the Gang of Four referred to as "capitalist roaders" won and their decisions have completely reshaped how China is today.

    I'm not saying any of this to be sectarian, as i am torn on the subject myself, ideologically siding with the left wing of the CPC, but also seeing the success of Deng's reforms in the realm of realpolitik and productive development. I particularly invite everybody who is better versed on the history of the CPC than i am to correct mistakes in this post, and if anybody can compare changes in how the scene is shown in the book vs how it is adapted for western audiences by Netflix, this would also be a welcome addition. Just saying that this isn't an idea that's new to the Netflix version, and that the original version isn't a Western "communism hates science", but a Dengist "ultras hate science".

    • Maoo [none/use name]
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      5 months ago

      It's the same as in the book.

      Also the author is well-known for pushing back on liberal claims about Xinjiang so they're not knee-jerk anticommunist with their depiction of a struggle session. Like you mention it's a pretty standard way for Dengists to criticize them.

        • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]
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          5 months ago

          Lmao these lib scumbags are okay with killing muslims in their imperialist wars, but when china does re-education of reactionaries suddenly they're concerned about "genocide"

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      5 months ago

      I wish I knew more about the Cultural Revolution as it's understood within China.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      5 months ago

      Just saying that this isn't an idea that's new to the Netflix version, and that the original version isn't a Western "communism hates science", but a Dengist "ultras hate science".

      I don't even necessarily think that the message is that ultras hate science, but rather that the CR was a really chaotic time that led to a lot of things getting out of hand and people getting hurt as a result.

    • EelBolshevikism [none/use name]
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      5 months ago

      Hey I wasn’t around back then but getting rid of Hitlerites doesn’t sound too bad nor does it sound incompatible with Deng’s ideas

        • EelBolshevikism [none/use name]
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          5 months ago

          whether to exterminate any and all vestiges of reactionary thought in the PRC

          Emphasis mine. I got the impression the point was to remove reactionary people from leadership but I don’t know anything about the cultural revolution.

          • LesbianLiberty [she/her]
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            5 months ago

            Hitlerites, plainly, were not in the CPC. I reccomend 1Dime's video on the cultural rev.

    • oregoncom [he/him]
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      5 months ago

      The Netflix series changed most of the Chinese characters into white British guys. If they had any integrity they would've changed the CR segments into red scare segments. But as always, not only will they whitewash the characters they will add insult to injury by keeping the villians Asians.