I’m not even American, so it doesn’t affect me directly, but I am scared to death of a Trump presidency.
I am one of those people here who think that Biden is a far more competent executor of imperialist policies compared to Trump, but what I am even more afraid of is the early death of nascent left wing movements in America.
I am reminded of how the KPD getting its leaders murdered by Freikorps thugs during the Spartacist uprising (mind you, a much stronger party than any leftist movement in America today), and how its continued suppression paved the way to Nazi Germany.
Project 2025 will effectively embolden fascist thugs in America to do the same to the left wing movements, many of which are still in their cradle, and the death of leftist movements in their infancies will inevitably pave the way to a fascist America and undo many of the progress that had been made over decades.
The world cannot afford a fascist America. Imagine Hitler with nukes. The world will have to pay a much, much larger price as a result.
On this reasoning alone, I believe that Trump needs to be stopped at all cost. But many here have disagreed with me, and I need you to persuade me why I shouldn’t be afraid of Project 2025 at all. Even if the chance of that happening is 10%, I’m still not ready to gamble with it.
(I’m not saying we have to support Biden, I believe it is somewhat inevitable, I’m saying that we have to buy ourselves as much time as possible, even if it means strategic voting, to build a resilient leftist movement while delaying the inevitable for as long as we can.)
Left wing movements in America are pretty dead as it is and those that have some level of notoriety are filled with radlibs who probably wouldn’t mind more aggressive actions taken against your country and even encourage it.
The goals of project 2025 are inevitable as long as Democrats and Republicans are the only parties in charge. Just look at the liberal darling known as NYC with its long history of leftist movements now building the worlds largest prison to rival Bukele’s dome, all under a Democratic mayor and governor.
left wing movements in America do exist, they're just either full of cranks or they're spread so thin doing various non-electoral things that they barely get anything done. I'm involved with 3 leftist orgs and that's where we're at. We barely scrape by just doing basic things like shelter work or answering emails about how to make a union. We're so powerless and strapped for resources that it always feels like plugging holes in an ever collapsing dam.
also the goals of Project 2025 already sound like they're here. It's just outright vocal fascism instead of the tepid, shy fascism the Democrats propose.
It's like a comment I saw on reddit earlier.
"Sick of this both side shit, dems introduced a bill to make everything over 32 hours a week overtime. Now I know that was a bernie bill that not everybody supported BUT..."
Literally when they try to argue why dems are better they have to point to an independent the democratic party is firmly united against and admit that most dems oppose the good thing he used as evidence.
I work in a library in Florida and all my lib coworkers are worried about the rightoids coming for our budgets when its like, 1. The rightoids have been in charge down here the whole time and 2. It's actually deep blue New York fucking City and their Dem mayor that are cutting library budgets. By the time we get budget cuts it will have been completely normalized by the rich blue states.