I really want Biden to win so more libs will see nothing change and none of his promises fulfilled. If Trump wins Dems get to be in their favorite position, blaming rs while going along with them and raising money. No, i want a good 4 terms of Democratic winning candidates shitting the bed.
Maybe that would be enough to prove to Bi-GATs the D party is not helping anyone, but i really don't know anymore.
They don't care about things changing or promises being fulfilled tho. They just care about winning against the Republicans, they are happy with the status quo in all other respects.
That is why they will praise Biden as a great & transformative president, but when you point out that he isn't great or transformative, they just say that you are a crazy far-leftist who is unrealistically expecting change in any way. They don't give a fuck.
It would probably be like Obama where they find any excuse to say why change didn’t happen and then list whatever they can find and make them sound like bigger deals than they were. Clinton had this happen too. They never learn.
Honestly? They probably will still fall for the same bs they always have. I do think/hope/wish that the Democratic party is running out of excuses and or things to offer, and are vying to be a one platform party, that platform being "we're not Republicans" and losing at least 50% of the time is a necessary part of that platform. They only want to restore part (at most) of what they first allow the Republican party to take away after all.
So that's why i have that unrealistic fantasy of consistent sustained Democratic wins. It won't happen, but imagining the Ds squirming as they try to find their next "parlaimentarian" scapegoat is at least funny. I would like to see how far the limits of the Bi-GAts credulity stretch
Yeah and i just got shouted down by folks for pointing out leftists say Biden isn't doing enough for student debt b/c Biden has only reduced student debt from 1.77T to 1.61T. like full-throated BiGAtry just for putting up a stat.
Dunno how much of it is astroturf and how much is simple bobbleheadry
I really want Biden to win so more libs will see nothing change and none of his promises fulfilled. If Trump wins Dems get to be in their favorite position, blaming rs while going along with them and raising money. No, i want a good 4 terms of Democratic winning candidates shitting the bed.
Maybe that would be enough to prove to Bi-GATs the D party is not helping anyone, but i really don't know anymore.
They don't care about things changing or promises being fulfilled tho. They just care about winning against the Republicans, they are happy with the status quo in all other respects. That is why they will praise Biden as a great & transformative president, but when you point out that he isn't great or transformative, they just say that you are a crazy far-leftist who is unrealistically expecting change in any way. They don't give a fuck.
I am torn between this and wanting to see Biden eat shit
It would probably be like Obama where they find any excuse to say why change didn’t happen and then list whatever they can find and make them sound like bigger deals than they were. Clinton had this happen too. They never learn.
Seeing nothing change, perhaps. But believing change was possible, even after 4 terms of nothing fundamentally changing? doubt.
They haven't seen any of that in the last 3 years, why would they start in his second term?
Honestly? They probably will still fall for the same bs they always have. I do think/hope/wish that the Democratic party is running out of excuses and or things to offer, and are vying to be a one platform party, that platform being "we're not Republicans" and losing at least 50% of the time is a necessary part of that platform. They only want to restore part (at most) of what they first allow the Republican party to take away after all.
So that's why i have that unrealistic fantasy of consistent sustained Democratic wins. It won't happen, but imagining the Ds squirming as they try to find their next "parlaimentarian" scapegoat is at least funny. I would like to see how far the limits of the Bi-GAts credulity stretch
I told some friends that I was simply disgusted with Biden due to Gaza and they said that he was doing good things for EPA
Yeah and i just got shouted down by folks for pointing out leftists say Biden isn't doing enough for student debt b/c Biden has only reduced student debt from 1.77T to 1.61T. like full-throated BiGAtry just for putting up a stat.
Dunno how much of it is astroturf and how much is simple bobbleheadry
Or cognitive dissonance?