The writing is extremely lazy, it also pushes the same dangerous/fascist idea that western media is saturated with nowdays, that everything bad that happens is the product of some shadowy Illuminati puppetmasters.
Also If you look at the general response so far people are bending over backwards to invent reasons why the writers are actually very smart, this is the same thing that happens with all slop (Star Wars is the archetypal example I think) - ‘oh maybe the writers didn’t actually mean this/are holding back information for next season/have some bigger picture in mind that will make it all make sense etc.’
While the set gives shadowy Illuminati, all the big capitalists getting together in a room and going "Well there's gonna be an economic crash if there's no nuclear war, so we HAVE to nuke the planet" isn't even a conspiracy, that's just capitalists doing capitalist things.
I hope S2 goes into the evolution of the pre-war gov't to mask-off fascist enclave.
I'm not very critical though, the dialogue sounding like it could be in a fallout game, and the little gimmicks like the player walking up to a random person and pointing a gun at them like "Oh, I didn't know that's rude" gives me dopamine.
I hope S2 goes into the evolution of the pre-war gov't to mask-off fascist enclave
see i think that was a weak point, because the prewar gov't was 1,000% fascist and the pre-war stuff they've put in so far is extremely tame McCarthyism references. they were doing genocide on hippies, canadians, mexicans, and chinese americans before the bombs dropped
that everything bad that happens is the product of some shadowy Illuminati puppetmasters.
That's part and parcel of Fallout though, no? There was already rampant speculation on Vault-Tec starting the war and the US govt by the end was basically Vault-Tec and the Enclave in a trench coat.
I never really played the games so maybe I’m missing something. But I don’t really understand why capitalists that already own and run everything would decide they need to create a post-apocalyptic wasteland. I mean the main reason we’ve never had nuclear war irl is because no-one benefits. And then the show is so devoid of politics or ideology, but in that case the motives of people who would give over their entire life to, for example, just running a vault underground, becomes hard to imagine.
Because they're trapped in an endless resource war with China that is on the edge of total world annihilation. They're conspiring to do a controlled burn rather than going to the negotiationing table with China.
IRL you had RAND, which did game out beneficial nuclear war. The idea was that only America would survive (as long as we did it first) and it would hurt our enemies more than us. Then the wealthy could maintain a relatively normal lifestyle, like the vault dwellers, while reaping the unharmed natural resources (oil, minerals, metals) of former enemies.
Of course, like you said, the material forces of the real world kept that from happening. The game world doesn't have the material limitations we do.
of course the ‘communists’ in the show turned out to be smug liberals who apparently knew everything abou VaultTecs plans, and negelected to tell anyone or do anything about it except for have meetings amongst themselves? lmao
The writing is extremely lazy, it also pushes the same dangerous/fascist idea that western media is saturated with nowdays, that everything bad that happens is the product of some shadowy Illuminati puppetmasters.
Also If you look at the general response so far people are bending over backwards to invent reasons why the writers are actually very smart, this is the same thing that happens with all slop (Star Wars is the archetypal example I think) - ‘oh maybe the writers didn’t actually mean this/are holding back information for next season/have some bigger picture in mind that will make it all make sense etc.’
While the set gives shadowy Illuminati, all the big capitalists getting together in a room and going "Well there's gonna be an economic crash if there's no nuclear war, so we HAVE to nuke the planet" isn't even a conspiracy, that's just capitalists doing capitalist things.
I hope S2 goes into the evolution of the pre-war gov't to mask-off fascist enclave.
I'm not very critical though, the dialogue sounding like it could be in a fallout game, and the little gimmicks like the player walking up to a random person and pointing a gun at them like "Oh, I didn't know that's rude" gives me dopamine.
see i think that was a weak point, because the prewar gov't was 1,000% fascist and the pre-war stuff they've put in so far is extremely tame McCarthyism references. they were doing genocide on hippies, canadians, mexicans, and chinese americans before the bombs dropped
That's part and parcel of Fallout though, no? There was already rampant speculation on Vault-Tec starting the war and the US govt by the end was basically Vault-Tec and the Enclave in a trench coat.
I never really played the games so maybe I’m missing something. But I don’t really understand why capitalists that already own and run everything would decide they need to create a post-apocalyptic wasteland. I mean the main reason we’ve never had nuclear war irl is because no-one benefits. And then the show is so devoid of politics or ideology, but in that case the motives of people who would give over their entire life to, for example, just running a vault underground, becomes hard to imagine.
Because they're trapped in an endless resource war with China that is on the edge of total world annihilation. They're conspiring to do a controlled burn rather than going to the negotiationing table with China.
IRL you had RAND, which did game out beneficial nuclear war. The idea was that only America would survive (as long as we did it first) and it would hurt our enemies more than us. Then the wealthy could maintain a relatively normal lifestyle, like the vault dwellers, while reaping the unharmed natural resources (oil, minerals, metals) of former enemies.
Of course, like you said, the material forces of the real world kept that from happening. The game world doesn't have the material limitations we do.
They'd rather burn everything down then lose the world to China I think is the play that they're going for.
they're on some libshit but 'fiduciary responsibility' getting explained as a negative thing it's left libshit at least
of course the ‘communists’ in the show turned out to be smug liberals who apparently knew everything abou VaultTecs plans, and negelected to tell anyone or do anything about it except for have meetings amongst themselves? lmao
i mean how long have we been yelling at the general public that exxon mobil is trying to murder us all, lmao