It's not a word that can, or should be, "reclaimed".

Dunking on chuds/libs/etc. is awesome, but it doesn't need that specific framing.

  • MaoTheLawn [any, any]
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    2 months ago

    Hot take, but to be honest, the whole 'bullying works' thing always came off as quite lame.

    It's online discourse. You don't seem tough. You seem like the leftist stereotype of a keyboard warrior.

    The chances are, a lot of leftists were probably on the 'bullied' side of the spectrum - more so than the right wing kids who were more likely to have been the bully. This could be too much extrapolation, but sometimes it seems like some deeper psychological impulse to enact justice on behalf of your younger self, and feel powerful.

    EDIT:

    I think the thread is deleted, so I cant reply to the comments. So I'll just put it in here.

    I'm not critiquing being mean to fascists. I never scold people for being mean to fascists, I just think there's a way to do it that isn't cringeworthy. If they're clearly acting in bad faith, yeah, tell them to fuck off. Labelling that as bullying however only helps their optics as victims (self perceived or otherwise), and proudly proclaiming that you've bullied someone over the internet... just... it's just not a good look. Like, 'guys, we sure pwned that CHUD, right??!'

    Maybe I'm wrong, but it just feels like a terminally online weirdo signifier. As is arguing in the Hexbear comments on a deleted thread, I suppose.

    I just think if you're in a position in society where it's not too emotionally laborious or dangerous for you to engage with someone meaningfully, you should try. I truly believe you can make a difference, even if it's marginal, whether it's just planting a seed of doubt, or giving them a whole new framework to interpret society with.

    That said, a pig shitting on it's own balls is sometimes the only option.

    • somename [she/her]
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      2 months ago

      I don't think it makes the poster cool by any means, but it's an effective way to deal with chuds sealioning or concern trolling. Often their shitty arguments aren't worthy of being engaged, and you don't want them to have free momentum. Hence, harass them till they are either banned or quit.

    • Adkml [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      The flip side to seeming like a "leftist stereotype of a keyboard warrior" is seeming like a civility fetishist who scolds people for being mean to literal self proclaimed fascists.

      If we're going to meaningfully oppose the rising tide of fascism in this country we may need to get a little thicker skin then being upset on the behalf of the enemy for calling them a dork.

    • 7bicycles [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      more so than the right wing kids who were more likely to have been the bully

      I don't think that rings true tbh. Like sure, right wing as per definition of a leftist, but if your schoolmates perceived you as right wing, good chance you were bullied for being a fucking loser

      • Kaputnik [he/him]
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        2 months ago

        Depends on school culture, more rural and suburban schools definitely have a very conservative dominant culture typically. Also in Canada hockey players take the role of the athletic kids and hockey tends to have a very reactionary culture compared to other sports

        • 7bicycles [he/him]
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          2 months ago

          The point I've failed to make here is that this doesn't register as right-wing to the given community, it registers as normal. I think nigh everybody who would register as right-wing to a rural or suburban school or canadian hockey players is going to get bullied for it because after that dominant culture it's all just loser shit like talking about phrenology or whatever

          • Kaputnik [he/him]
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            2 months ago

            Ah okay I see that makes sense, the kid who gets into esoteric fascism and Evola definitely gets bullied