https://www.businessinsider.com/western-fighters-die-in-ukraine-assume-be-easy-us-veteran-2024-5

  • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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    1 month ago

    I'd understand it if this article was written two years ago at the height of "Slava Ukraini hero Zelenskyyyyyy in camo", but why would you assume it'd be easy in 2024?

    • Adkml [he/him]
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      1 month ago

      In their defense according to the media it's been a completely one sided war and ukraine is just losing ground because thousands of unarmed Russian soldiers were doing human wave attacks.

      You know, the exact same reason nazi Germany said they were losing.

      • Leon_Frotsky [she/her, undecided]
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        1 month ago

        i remember a while ago bbc ran a story about how russians were reduced to attacking ukrainian fortifications with shovels because they'd run out of guns and buried deep in the article it said something like "the Ukrainian government has not stated where this engagement took place and the BBC has been unable to independently verify it"

        edit: i found the article

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        • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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          1 month ago

          The tool was designed in 1869 and had changed little, the ministry said.

          Lmao at the BBC trying to age shame an entrenching tool.

          • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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            1 month ago

            You're just mad that Russia doesn't have access to our sophisticated modern shoveling technology smuglord

            • Teekeeus [comrade/them]
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              1 month ago

              You have not paid your shovel subscription fee. This tool will not function until you make the payment. Error. Shovel disconnected from the internet. Please try again.

        • Adkml [he/him]
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          1 month ago

          Yea you'd think "we keep abondoning positions to people we claim don't know what a toilet is" would be a pretty tough thing to admit.

          Which does not speak very highly of the actual situation they're trying to not admit to.

          • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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            1 month ago

            The propaganda has been so dumb. They tried recycling all the tired shit they used against Arabs living in a desert for decades. They were saying Russians didn't know what toilets and roads are and how they're uncivilized farmers living in mud huts on dirt roads

            So imagine how much more efficient they become invading a nation that has roads and they don't have to slog through mud and brush. Not so fun fighting savage barbarians that didn't grow up in luxury with modern amenities is it? They restructured all their war machines and training around fighting an insurgent enemy with no sea or air power and I guess just hoped it would work against an army exactly like their own?

            • jackmarxist [any]
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              1 month ago

              Westerners see war like it's Lord of the Rings or Marvel. Zero sense of reality.

      • CommunistBear [he/him]
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        1 month ago

        There was a reddit-logo thread recently where people were unironically parroting "human wave attacks" and it all just felt so deeply unserious. Like, if Russia really was doing that doesn't that just imply how wildly inept the Ukrainians are if they can't even overcome a tactic that was solved the day the automatic weapon was established?

        • Adkml [he/him]
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          1 month ago

          Weird how the billions of dollars we've sent them haven't been able to equip them as well as soldiers in WWI.

        • Tunnelvision [they/them]
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          1 month ago

          The human wave attacks imho are an exaggeration of a real phenomenon with the Ukraine war. Obviously it’s dumb to think Russia just sends dudes out to get cut down, but it was a legitimate strategy, especially earlier when Wagner was doing a lot of the fighting, to send men out to intentionally draw artillery/small arms fire in order to reveal enemy positions for counter batteries. Any western nation would have done the same thing given the situation.

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        1 month ago

        Human Wave Attacks!*

        *) The humans are all part of artillery crews saturating you with shells

    • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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      1 month ago

      These mercenary types all think they're The Punisher, an unstoppable force of nature

      They're used to being set on civilians and insurgent forces at best

      The West hasn't had a war against a peer in a while, so these guys aren't used to fighting guys who can counter their tactics and weapons