https://www.businessinsider.com/western-fighters-die-in-ukraine-assume-be-easy-us-veteran-2024-5

  • bbnh69420 [she/her, they/them]
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    6 months ago

    used as a sacrificial unit

    Bitch it’s called being in the ukranian army, this is what you wanted

    • Adkml [he/him]
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      6 months ago

      "To the last man" means you're all sacrificial. Shame nobody except communists were able to figure that out. Again.

      • Pentacat [he/him]
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        6 months ago

        Everyone else doesn’t believe in material conditions. “To the last man” is inspiring when it doesn’t get translated to what happens on the ground.

  • WeedReference420 [he/him, they/them]
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    6 months ago

    I remember a bunch of Iraq/Afghanistan war vets going out in the first couple of months, getting hit with airstrikes and artillery and then immediately noping out lmao

    • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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      6 months ago

      Turns out war is a lot harder when you're not just murdering women and children.

    • FALGSConaut [comrade/them]
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      6 months ago

      Those articles they wrote about how they didn't have access to airstrikes to "shape the battlefield", being unable to just call in a medivac helicopter for every stubbed toe, being told to hold a trench to the death instead of going on special operations missions, and otherwise finding out that war is actually dangerous when your opponent can fight back were chefs-kiss

      • VILenin [he/him]
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        6 months ago

        Every US army tough guy immediately turning around and fleeing the moment they find out there’s no cafeteria in the trenches and no children to murder

        • FALGSConaut [comrade/them]
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          6 months ago

          Some "operator" right before being told to charge across a minefield and assault a prepared defensive position- "What do you mean I can't UberEats some BurgerKing? War really is hell!"

  • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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    6 months ago

    Extremely critical support to Ukraine in its struggle against redditors.

  • VILenin [he/him]
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    6 months ago

    “Veterans” who spent 15 years shitting in an air-conditioned port-a-potty fail to fight actual war

        • imikoy [she/her, comrade/them]
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          6 months ago

          Burger King truck: deployed

          Waste management (burn pits): dug out

          Buildings (six sheets of drywall): built

          It's military base time

        • Milksteaks [he/him]@midwest.social
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          6 months ago

          For some reason I'm imagining a giant robot from fallout serving up a burger of liberty saying catch lines like "now serving up democracy" while throwing burger bombs or "I hope you like it flame broiled" while shooting geysers of napalm

      • Tunnelvision [they/them]
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        6 months ago

        Bro that is not a flex when you can’t even supply your men with artillery lmfao

      • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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        6 months ago

        That's so fucking dystopian. Beyond dystopian even. Like, it would be too on-the-nose in a dystopian novel about corporate armies fighting each other for profit.

      • jackmarxist [any]
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        6 months ago

        American soldiers deserve to eat nothing but burger king

  • Adkml [he/him]
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    6 months ago

    Awww did a bunch of serial killers that thought they were just going to commit war crimes against unarmed civilians and call them combatants find out what an actually equipped army is like to fight against.

  • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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    6 months ago

    as it turned out, being a veteran of the Culture Wars, resisting in the War on Christmas, leading the Bathroom Genital Inspection Militias, and fighting for Prayer in Public Schools did not actually confer any relevant skill or tactical awareness in the Burgerlanders.

    it was in this prideful confusion the International Brigades found themselves obliterated by a 22 year old doing a trig problem to drop artillery on their position.

    • Palacegalleryratio [he/him]
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      6 months ago

      In their defence, how much skill and tactical awareness do you need when the order of the day is to sit in a foxhole and get shelled by a 120mm mortar?

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    6 months ago

    some international survivors saying they were used as a "sacrificial unit"

    Mercenaries are learning why people buy mercenaries.

  • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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    6 months ago

    I'd understand it if this article was written two years ago at the height of "Slava Ukraini hero Zelenskyyyyyy in camo", but why would you assume it'd be easy in 2024?

    • Adkml [he/him]
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      6 months ago

      In their defense according to the media it's been a completely one sided war and ukraine is just losing ground because thousands of unarmed Russian soldiers were doing human wave attacks.

      You know, the exact same reason nazi Germany said they were losing.

      • Leon_Frotsky [she/her]
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        6 months ago

        i remember a while ago bbc ran a story about how russians were reduced to attacking ukrainian fortifications with shovels because they'd run out of guns and buried deep in the article it said something like "the Ukrainian government has not stated where this engagement took place and the BBC has been unable to independently verify it"

        edit: i found the article

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        • Adkml [he/him]
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          6 months ago

          Yea you'd think "we keep abondoning positions to people we claim don't know what a toilet is" would be a pretty tough thing to admit.

          Which does not speak very highly of the actual situation they're trying to not admit to.

          • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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            6 months ago

            The propaganda has been so dumb. They tried recycling all the tired shit they used against Arabs living in a desert for decades. They were saying Russians didn't know what toilets and roads are and how they're uncivilized farmers living in mud huts on dirt roads

            So imagine how much more efficient they become invading a nation that has roads and they don't have to slog through mud and brush. Not so fun fighting savage barbarians that didn't grow up in luxury with modern amenities is it? They restructured all their war machines and training around fighting an insurgent enemy with no sea or air power and I guess just hoped it would work against an army exactly like their own?

            • jackmarxist [any]
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              6 months ago

              Westerners see war like it's Lord of the Rings or Marvel. Zero sense of reality.

      • CommunistBear [he/him]
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        6 months ago

        There was a reddit-logo thread recently where people were unironically parroting "human wave attacks" and it all just felt so deeply unserious. Like, if Russia really was doing that doesn't that just imply how wildly inept the Ukrainians are if they can't even overcome a tactic that was solved the day the automatic weapon was established?

        • Adkml [he/him]
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          6 months ago

          Weird how the billions of dollars we've sent them haven't been able to equip them as well as soldiers in WWI.

        • Tunnelvision [they/them]
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          6 months ago

          The human wave attacks imho are an exaggeration of a real phenomenon with the Ukraine war. Obviously it’s dumb to think Russia just sends dudes out to get cut down, but it was a legitimate strategy, especially earlier when Wagner was doing a lot of the fighting, to send men out to intentionally draw artillery/small arms fire in order to reveal enemy positions for counter batteries. Any western nation would have done the same thing given the situation.

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        6 months ago

        Human Wave Attacks!*

        *) The humans are all part of artillery crews saturating you with shells

    • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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      6 months ago

      These mercenary types all think they're The Punisher, an unstoppable force of nature

      They're used to being set on civilians and insurgent forces at best

      The West hasn't had a war against a peer in a while, so these guys aren't used to fighting guys who can counter their tactics and weapons

  • Utter_Karate [he/him, comrade/them]
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    6 months ago

    Are there still new people going over!? IThere was a rush of people in the beginning who just did not understand what air superiority meant, but my video game-addled brain assumed that any current volunteers would have found their audio logs conveniently scattered on the way there.

    • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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      6 months ago

      They're mostly mercenaries now

      The stories of the First Armored Reddit Brigade did stamp down the idea that Call of Duty veterans can make a difference

      • Absolute@lemmygrad.ml
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        6 months ago

        The entire world of being a mercenary is so foreign to me I couldn't even imagine how to begin finding a job in the field, but surely there are better merc jobs out there at this moment than going to the meat grinder for a military notorious for not paying their mercenaries

        • Dolores [love/loves]
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          6 months ago

          start by being discharged from a regular army and wait for shady individuals/emails to hit you up. all the major companies aren't real 'soldiers of fortune' just disavowable government assets closely attached to a national army & using its retired personnel

  • ashinadash [she/her]
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    6 months ago

    "British Fighters in the Somme are getting killed because they assumed they'd be home in time for Christmas, says English soldier who fought there"