Vietnam under Chinese rule or Bắc thuộc (北屬, lit. "belonging to the north") (111 BC–939, 1407–1428) refers to four historical periods when several portions of modern-day Northern Vietnam was under the rule of various Chinese dynasties. Bắc thuộc in Vietnamese historiography is traditionally considered to have started in 111 BC, when the Han dynasty conquered Nanyue (Vietnamese "Nam Việt") and lasted until 939, when the Ngô dynasty was founded. A fourth, relatively brief, 20-year rule by the Ming dynasty during the 15th century is usually excluded by historians in their discussion of the main, almost continuous, period of Chinese rule from 111 BC to 939 AD.
The four periods of Chinese rule did not correspond to the modern borders of Vietnam, but were mainly limited to the area around the Red River Delta and adjacent areas. During the first three periods of Chinese rule, the pre-Sinitic indigenous culture was centered in the northern part of modern Vietnam, in the alluvial deltas of the Hong, Cả and Mã Rivers.
Elements of Chinese culture such as language, religion, art, and way of life constituted an important component of traditional Vietnamese culture until modernity.
Periods of Chinese rule
First Era of Northern Domination: 111 BC–AD 40
The first period of Bắc thuộc is traditionally considered to have started following the Western Han's victory in the Han–Nanyue War. It ended with the brief revolt of the Trưng sisters.
Second Era of Northern Domination: AD 43–544
Chinese rule was restored after the Trung sisters' rebellion. The second period of Chinese rule was ended by the revolt of Lý Bôn, who took advantage of the internal disorder of the waning Liang dynasty. Lý Bôn subsequently founded the Early Lý dynasty, with the official dynastic name "Vạn Xuân" (萬春).
Third Era of Northern Domination: AD 602–905
The Sui dynasty reincorporated Vietnam into China following the Sui–Early Lý War. This period saw the entrenchment of mandarin administration in Vietnam. The third period of Chinese rule concluded following the collapse of the Tang dynasty and the subsequent defeat of the Southern Han armada by Ngô Quyền at the Battle of Bạch Đằng. Ngô Quyền later proclaimed the Ngô dynasty.
Fourth Era of Northern Domination: AD 1407–1428
Vietnam was brought under the control of China following the Ming dynasty's defeat of the short-lived Hồ dynasty. The fourth period of Chinese rule ended when the Lam Sơn uprising led by Lê Lợi emerged successful. Lê Lợi then reestablished the Đại Việt kingdom (大越) under the new Lê dynasty.
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But see the point is that other cultures don’t suffer from this nearly as much as the west-it is deeply embedded in the institutions and culture and will continue as long as Anglos have any amount of influence whatsoever
I’m really sick and tired of talking to guys about this because they’ll automatically put their emotions over a woman’s fear of getting SA’d or murdered. Yes the patriarchy hurts everyone, but the point remains that empathy should be withheld until some reflection is done.
You can’t save everyone and really must put your foot down at some point
I'm gonna need to to back this up with some examples because I really cant think of many cultures where patriarchy isn't deeply imbedded.
You can say murderers and r*pists should all KTS and you wont get any argument from anyone but the men who are killing themselves due to toxic gender roles are not the same ones SAing and murdering women.
and so you draw the line at gender? nah. bad take.
I think it might be the role of different folks to try and be a kind hand and heart to these men who are on the cusp of understanding. Men who already understand are much better vehicles for helping educate other men on these topics as they're less liable to be hurt by the words or actions of these other men. I don't say that to excuse how men can behave; but instead that clearly there needs to be a mechanism for some of these men to have somebody to talk about this stuff with.