I do not find the smash games after melee all that fun, Melee was something else and Sakurai watering down the gameplay for the sake of the casual gamer (despite the fact that Melee was mega popular with casual gamers already) makes me unreasonably upset.
the only boomer opinion I allow myself to have is getting kinda slightly mad about modern smash fans claiming it's basically the same as classic format, in-depth fighting games. I don't like melee but the mechanics and execution there are way closer than the others (which are admittedly very fun party games).
They do share the barest fundamentals like spacing, neutral/advantage, combo/trap/punish, especially early-to-mid stock before it transitions to more offstage stuff
Beyond that I think it's pretty widely accepted now that "platform fighter" is a distinct genre.
Which I think is cool! I just hate to see them compared and given recognition over more "traditional" genres because of popularity. It's honestly like comparing apples and oranges. The offstage mechanics are their own hugely exploitable portion of gameplay that aren't really reflected in the likes of Street Fighter or Tekken etc. and deserve recognition, but damn did I get salty about people trash talking SF in comparison to smash, or for derivative platform fighters like Multiversus 🤮 winning at TGA (tbh a pointless award but yk) over beloved series.
Yeah that probably just comes with the "nintendo nostalgia wankfest" territory unfortunately. If the genre was born out of an original IP like fuckin Brawlhalla or something, it'd still be a side thing to classic fighters instead of people trying to treat it like a competition or even a successor. Anyway fuck multiversus and respect to the classic fighters even if they aren't my thing.
Ultimate has finally backtracked far enough from the balloon-slapping physics of Brawl that I don't mind anymore. It's no Melee but it's at least a reliably fun party game again, which is all I ask of it.
I do not find the smash games after melee all that fun, Melee was something else and Sakurai watering down the gameplay for the sake of the casual gamer (despite the fact that Melee was mega popular with casual gamers already) makes me unreasonably upset.
the only boomer opinion I allow myself to have is getting kinda slightly mad about modern smash fans claiming it's basically the same as classic format, in-depth fighting games. I don't like melee but the mechanics and execution there are way closer than the others (which are admittedly very fun party games).
They do share the barest fundamentals like spacing, neutral/advantage, combo/trap/punish, especially early-to-mid stock before it transitions to more offstage stuff
Beyond that I think it's pretty widely accepted now that "platform fighter" is a distinct genre.
Which I think is cool! I just hate to see them compared and given recognition over more "traditional" genres because of popularity. It's honestly like comparing apples and oranges. The offstage mechanics are their own hugely exploitable portion of gameplay that aren't really reflected in the likes of Street Fighter or Tekken etc. and deserve recognition, but damn did I get salty about people trash talking SF in comparison to smash, or for derivative platform fighters like Multiversus 🤮 winning at TGA (tbh a pointless award but yk) over beloved series.
Yeah that probably just comes with the "nintendo nostalgia wankfest" territory unfortunately. If the genre was born out of an original IP like fuckin Brawlhalla or something, it'd still be a side thing to classic fighters instead of people trying to treat it like a competition or even a successor. Anyway fuck multiversus and respect to the classic fighters even if they aren't my thing.
Ultimate has finally backtracked far enough from the balloon-slapping physics of Brawl that I don't mind anymore. It's no Melee but it's at least a reliably fun party game again, which is all I ask of it.
come on, you don't like everybody being here in ult?
They've done an awesome job with the cast and paying homage to all the different games, I just find the actual gameplay very unsatisfying