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  • BorgDrone@lemmy.one
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    6 months ago

    The Ukrainian constitution forbids holding elections during times of war.

    Is Lemmy full of Russians shills now?

        • TechnoUnionTypeBeat [he/him, they/them]
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          6 months ago

          I'm going to be charitable and assume you just catastrophically misunderstood the point instead of being intentionally obtuse. I shouldn't be but I will be

          Let's say Russia decides to end the war without a treaty today. Do you really believe Elensky will stop martial law and return to holding elections?

          Of course not. Either Ukraine will counter-invade into Russia, thus prolonging the war and martial law, or he'll keep the threat of Russia's mere existence as a reason to keep martial law in place - after all, they need to be vigilant about more threats etc etc

          I fucking beg of you Lemmytors to fire off a single brain cell once in a while and see if a thought forms

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        • Kieselguhr [none/use name]
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          6 months ago

          At the moment that seems up to russia. The war can end tomorrow if they fuck off back to their shithole of a country.

          They said no.

          What's your next move, Mr. Strategic Mastermind? Another failed counteroffensive?

          More working class Ukrainians dead? For what? Fight more so the people in Avdeevka might have 1% chance of paying taxes to Poroshenko instead of Putin? That's it?

        • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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          6 months ago

          Wow homophobia on top of racism, so progressive of you

          At least Putin can draw a clock and isn't committing a genocide

          Never say y'all ever the fuck again, I can tell how goddamn white you are without even seeing you so go the fuck back to mayoville you fucking cracker

          the-boys-are-back-in-town hamas-red-triangle the-boys-are-back-in-town

          lmayo cracker lmayo

        • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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          6 months ago

          Russia has offered reasonable peace terms. Ukraine is to withdraw from the new Russian territories (which even westerners admit they will never win back by force) and never join NATO.

          Is that so hard to accept? Why do hundreds of thousands need to die so Ukraine can join NATO?

    • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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      6 months ago

      Is Lemmy full of Russians shills now?

      how delicate is your worldview that you feel it so necessary to disregard anyone who disagrees with you?

    • Barx [none/use name]
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      6 months ago

      This is your political analysis: the anti-democracy is legal so it is valid!

      PS Ukraine has been an illegitimate government since 2014. Nuland et al were openly talking about installing their own person. You don't even have to read very much to accept this fact.

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    • Kieselguhr [none/use name]
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      6 months ago

      Western libs always say that the war must go on because "that's what the Ukrainian people want."

      But how do they even know this? There's no elections and people clearly don't want to be conscripted. (The response rate for conscription letters is very low.)

      Even by liberal standards this is bullshit, isn't it?

      Recruiters have confiscated passports, taken people from their jobs and, in at least one case, tried to send a mentally disabled person to military training, according to lawyers, activists and Ukrainian men who have been subject to coercive tactics. Videos of soldiers shoving people into cars and holding men against their will in recruiting centers are surfacing with increasing frequency on social media and in local news reports. (NYT)

    • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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      6 months ago

      Sorry do you mean the fake rag written up for the illegitimate Nazi junta that took over Ukraine via violent revolt in 2014?

    • catonkatonk [none/use name]
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      6 months ago

      Is this in the constitution too: https://www.npr.org/2022/07/08/1110577439/zelenskyy-has-consolidated-ukraines-tv-outlets-and-dissolved-rival-political-par

      Seems like a bad constitution in that case.

    • TechnoAnomie [he/him, any]
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      6 months ago

      Everyone who disagrees with the devastation and massacre of Vietnam is a communist, everyone who disagrees about the devastation and massacre of Iraq is a terrorist, everyone who disagrees with the devastation and massacre of Palestine is Hamas, everyone who disagrees with the devastation and massacre of eastern Ukraine and Russia is a Putinist. It is known.

    • TheLepidopterists [he/him]
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      6 months ago

      Does it also require the dismantling of every leftist party in the country you Nazi apologist dog?

    • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]M
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      6 months ago

      The Ukrainian constitution forbids holding elections during times of war.

      Stop reading shit on reddit and spewing it up in lemmy like you are some kind of expert. You aren't.

      Parliamentary (not presidential) elections are canceled during marshal law. There is nothing in the constitution that says a president's term can be extended by being at war.

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        • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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          6 months ago

          The Ukrainian Constitution directly prohibits holding any elections under martial law. And even if it did allow them, there are dozens of unsolvable practical and security issues rendering it literally impossible to ensure a fair electoral process in the circumstances of a total war.

          There's no need for martial law except in the actual combat zones. They could simply end martial law in the populated regions and hold elections. The "unsolveable" issues are just imaginary - the US managed to hold elections during a Civil War without even the benefit of telegraph.

          There's no legitimate excuses.

          EDIT: hahaha

          As of February 2023, аlmost 18% of Ukraine’s territory is under temporary Russian occupation

          IT'S TEMPORARY! IT'S ALL TEMPORARY!!

    • ziggurter [he/him, comrade/them]
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      6 months ago

      Also in Ukraine's constitution:

      Article 16

      To ensure ecological safety and to maintain the ecological balance on the territory of Ukraine, to overcome the consequences of the Chornobyl catastrophe - a catastrophe of global scale, and to preserve the gene pool of the Ukrainian people, is the duty of the State.

      Very cool. Not fascist at all.