I think that's the point, they are trying to make life increasingly annoying for everyone, especially westerners, until climate change is adequately addressed. I can backseat activist all day and nitpick what they're doing, but honestly it's more direct action than I've ever done for the climate
I think that's the point, they are trying to make life increasingly annoying for everyone, especially westerners, until climate change is adequately addressed.
I don't think it works like that tho. Like do they honestly expect the average person is going to be "yeah these activists sure are inconveniencing me with blocking traffic and throwing paint and stuff, let us change our entire political and economic order so they shut up about it already"? I mean I'd very much like to be wrong here if that's what it really takes I'm gonna be personally throwing paint at all kinds of shit but I just don't see it.
I can backseat activist all day and nitpick what they're doing, but honestly it's more direct action than I've ever done for the climate
I can somewhat agree with that, I don't think what they're doing is inherently wrong or harmful or whatever, I just don't think it's really having any impact.
The problem is working class activists are taking the hit for the wealthy people funding these organisations. And they are taking risks and devoting their time to a strategy which we know will not work, and which doesn’t just disdain popular support but is specifically antagonistic to it. I don’t doubt the activists hearts are in the right place, but I also don’t think they will achieve anything positive. It’s not an ethics thing, it’s a question of what’s actually practical.
Are they really not the least bit self aware? I've not seen a single person in my environment react positively to these kinds of stunts.
I think that's the point, they are trying to make life increasingly annoying for everyone, especially westerners, until climate change is adequately addressed. I can backseat activist all day and nitpick what they're doing, but honestly it's more direct action than I've ever done for the climate
I don't think it works like that tho. Like do they honestly expect the average person is going to be "yeah these activists sure are inconveniencing me with blocking traffic and throwing paint and stuff, let us change our entire political and economic order so they shut up about it already"? I mean I'd very much like to be wrong here if that's what it really takes I'm gonna be personally throwing paint at all kinds of shit but I just don't see it.
I can somewhat agree with that, I don't think what they're doing is inherently wrong or harmful or whatever, I just don't think it's really having any impact.
Is it better for people ignoring environmental issues to be comfortable or mildly annoyed, assuming they aren't taking action either way?
The problem is working class activists are taking the hit for the wealthy people funding these organisations. And they are taking risks and devoting their time to a strategy which we know will not work, and which doesn’t just disdain popular support but is specifically antagonistic to it. I don’t doubt the activists hearts are in the right place, but I also don’t think they will achieve anything positive. It’s not an ethics thing, it’s a question of what’s actually practical.