This person has also said many transphobic and misogynistic things to me before. Lemmy.ml is a fucking joke, I'm only on here to check trans places everywhere

https://lemmy.ml/post/17190483/11831213

edit: He's been banned by dessalines. But nutomic (an admin) and davel (an admin and hexbear user) has been defending him in the comments. They should go too, wtf

  • Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]
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    4 days ago

    I'd always seen "kiddie porn" as a very obviously disrespectful and gross term, so it never struck me as a "normal" or appropriate term for CSAM. I think I myself learned the term "child sexual abuse material" on trans Reddit in 2020~2021: despite advocacy, "child pornography" still seems to be the predominant term in the general public, and in laws and headlines, so it basically took me actually getting into a space that gave a shit about feminism to learn the proper term.

    I don’t know anything about English common law or Indian (where Anonymouse lives) law on this topic, and I know close to nothing about US/Canadian/European law on it.

    AI-generated CSAM is illegal in India. POCSO explicitly includes computer-generated imagery indistinguishable from an actual child, and modified versions of images which were not originally sexually explicit; the Information Technology Act, furthermore, covers "text or digital images depicting children in [an] obscene or indecent or sexually explicit manner".

    • davel [he/him]
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      4 days ago

      Theory: By virtue of trans people being oft-accused of pedophilia by transmisiacs, they are hyper-aware of it, hypersensitive to it, and well-educated on it, at least compared to a crusty old cishet like me.

      • Nakoichi [he/him]
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        4 days ago

        I'm not trans and I have mostly liked your posts in the past but given the context of this thread and been a victim and had other family members victimized myself I have a moral obligation to advocate for your site wide ban. If you can somehow come up with a more meaningful and sincere apology that would be great but there are others who I have been in contact with who aren't as forgiving.

        I don't hate you but you REALLY fucked up here.

          • kristina [she/her]
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            3 days ago

            You're defending it because you're getting in absurd semantics talks with survivors of abuse at this point, with zero self awareness. You are functionally defending a defender of pedophilia with these arguments, which you are acknowledging in your own fucking posts. Self crit.

            You're also accusing Marcie of being a malicious infiltrator, while spewing nonsense. If anyone is malicious, it's the people that have been enabling this guy for the better part of a year, which includes you

            • davel [he/him]
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              3 days ago

              You're also accusing Marcie of being a malicious infiltrator, while spewing nonsense.

              Why did @marcie@lemmy.ml accuse me of defending a pedo defender before I was even aware of or commented on the original post or this dunk_tank post? Again, look at the timestamps. Does that sound good-faith behavior to you? I was already getting piled on by several people, who presumably took her at her word, before I even knew anything was happening. The only reason I got involved at all is because my inbox blew up out of nowhere this morning.

              • kristina [she/her]
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                3 days ago

                Because you have gone to bat for this guy before, who is a rabid misogynist. Looks like her intuition was correct, because you did it anyways. But it's not like she can comment on this post because all you pedo defenders defederated from this community for shitting on your precious boys club.

                Also, the time stamps do line up with when she edited the post. She was clearly responding to your pedo defense behavior.

                I'm done talking with you, you're fucking disgusting.

          • Nakoichi [he/him]
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            3 days ago

            I think our argument here is semantic and I don't agree with the semantic difference. I am disappointed in the doubling down, I am not asking you to run your site "exactly like hexbear" just the bare minimum of not trying to "well ackshually" the same argument the guy we banned was making that it wasn't "technically CSAM" because the images weren't real or because the victim was a teen. Any of those arguments are to me indistinguishable from the accusation.

            • davel [he/him]
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              3 days ago

              I have no interest in defending and did not defend the position that the images weren’t “technically CSAM”. Show me where I said that. I didn’t say anything about what CSAM is or isn’t, and I rejected his legal arguments.

              Show me what I actually did wrong. Show me my own words, and what is wrong with them.

              If I said anything wrong, it was the preamble to my bullet points: “I didn’t see him defending pedophilia.” Which, you’re welcome to argue was in my own ignorance and failure to closely read everything in that sprawling conservation, I did not see. The bullet points themselves I think still stand, despite having been censored.

          • davel [he/him]
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            3 days ago

            Admins, are you seeing these removals, or has c/the_dunk_tank gone rogue?

      • Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]
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        4 days ago

        That is a big part of it, yes. Honestly this comment sounds almost like something I'd write myself, though I would probably also go into detail about other reasons.