https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/30/politics/biden-family-camp-david-debate/index.html

  • supafuzz [comrade/them]
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    3 days ago

    I mean it's pretty clear that at least some of his staff orchestrated this failure to create a window of opportunity to replace him. If he's going to hang on until death claims him, then yeah he needs to purge some folks

    which would be pretty funny, the last people in the administration with even a glancing familiarity with reality forced out so the lich king can cling to power with his bony fingers all the way to the gates of hell

    • itappearsthat [he/him]
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      3 days ago

      I think this is probably true. It is a very common tactic in dysfunctional organizations (that I've even employed myself a few times). When someone is being incredibly obstinate and heading down a path you know leads to disaster, sometimes all you can do is switch to a cheerleader encouraging them to rush headlong off the nearest cliff. Then nobody can ignore the crash and there is the opportunity to build something better from the wreckage.

      • supafuzz [comrade/them]
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        3 days ago

        Nobody could have thought Biden would do well at 9 PM, agreeing to that time slot is prima facie evidence of sabotage

        • Assian_Candor [comrade/them]
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          3 days ago

          The thing is debates are always at 9 eastern, because that's 6 on the west coast, and allows people to get home and turn it on after work. You can't do it any earlier unless it's on a Saturday, and then in the fall you're competing against college football

          Edit: the move here is to do it on west coast time and do a weeklong tour of mountain states to try to get his sleep schedule shifted earlier

          You know, like a toddler

        • supafuzz [comrade/them]
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          3 days ago

          and for the record, since we've apparently got some semi-literates hanging around today, sabotaging Biden is probably the only cool/good thing the responsible staffers have ever done in their lives

    • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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      3 days ago

      I mean it's pretty clear that at least some of his staff orchestrated this failure to create a window of opportunity to replace him.

      I am very weary of giving credit to people who are consistently wrong about everything and always showing signs of incompetence.

      It doesn't have to be the result of a scheme, rather the simplest explanation is they really believed their own BS and those people standing up now are just opportunists that never liked Biden in the first place.

      There is also maybe just the fact they're just too embarrassed now, you can't complain about all the silly Trump antics, covfefe or sex with porn actors and then having their own grandpa Joe almost shitting his pants on live TV.

      Things like stutter or missing a step can be excused, but over 1h of live TV embarrassment?

      • sharedburdens [she/her, comrade/them]
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        3 days ago

        the last people in the administration with even a glancing familiarity with reality forced out so the lich king can cling to power with his bony fingers all the way to the gates of hell

        Yea okay wow, you are definitely blue maga

        yeah sounds like they're really ride or die with Biden

      • TheLepidopterists [he/him]
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        3 days ago

        I think you're being a little knee jerk here, reread the comment, supafuzz definitely isn't a Biden supporter. You're in a Hexbear comm, nobody here is pro Biden or pro Trump.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        3 days ago

        @midwest.social

        Give it a few weeks, you'll pick up on how everyone talks here.

            • Flyberius [comrade/them]
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              2 days ago

              You know, I'm here for people who self censor on occasion, even if the person themselves is insufferable. I think it's an incredibly harmless thing to do, and sometimes it just reads better.

              • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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                2 days ago

                Totally fair, and i agree. In this case it smacks of false piety as the poster is quoting a song lyric, presumably as an insult since Leery's politics are about as far from Maoist Standard English as you can get.

          • Alaskaball [comrade/them]M
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            3 days ago

            Alright Dennis, you can say you're an asshole here among us hexagonal bears.

            We won't bite

      • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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        3 days ago

        I don't think they're being pro-liberal; it comes across less as 'Biden is fine' and more 'Democrats are trying to force out their terrible candidate without being overt about it'

      • silent_water [she/her]
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        3 days ago

        lmao I think you just challenged supafuzz to a fight.

        they're saying a faction with the Ds wanted Biden out before the debate, there's a power struggle between that faction and Biden's, and that the faction that wanted him out has a better grip on reality. damning with faint praise isn't endorsement.