https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/30/politics/biden-family-camp-david-debate/index.html
In the NYT article (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/30/us/politics/biden-debate-anxious-democrats.html) they include this gem:
One of the strongest voices imploring Mr. Biden to resist pressure to drop out was his son Hunter Biden, whom the president has long leaned on for advice, said one of the people informed about the discussions, who, like others, spoke on condition of anonymity to share internal deliberations. Hunter Biden wants Americans to see the version of his father that he knows — scrappy and in command of the facts — rather than the stumbling, aging president Americans saw on Thursday night.
lmao this campaign is just handing ammo to republicans by invoking Hunter
Same energy as when people believe CIA claims, as if they're being briefed rather than, you know, psyoped. You are not invited to the briefings
I mean it's pretty clear that at least some of his staff orchestrated this failure to create a window of opportunity to replace him. If he's going to hang on until death claims him, then yeah he needs to purge some folks
which would be pretty funny, the last people in the administration with even a glancing familiarity with reality forced out so the lich king can cling to power with his bony fingers all the way to the gates of hell
I think this is probably true. It is a very common tactic in dysfunctional organizations (that I've even employed myself a few times). When someone is being incredibly obstinate and heading down a path you know leads to disaster, sometimes all you can do is switch to a cheerleader encouraging them to rush headlong off the nearest cliff. Then nobody can ignore the crash and there is the opportunity to build something better from the wreckage.
Nobody could have thought Biden would do well at 9 PM, agreeing to that time slot is prima facie evidence of sabotage
and for the record, since we've apparently got some semi-literates hanging around today, sabotaging Biden is probably the only cool/good thing the responsible staffers have ever done in their lives
The thing is debates are always at 9 eastern, because that's 6 on the west coast, and allows people to get home and turn it on after work. You can't do it any earlier unless it's on a Saturday, and then in the fall you're competing against college football
Edit: the move here is to do it on west coast time and do a weeklong tour of mountain states to try to get his sleep schedule shifted earlier
You know, like a toddler
I mean it's pretty clear that at least some of his staff orchestrated this failure to create a window of opportunity to replace him.
I am very weary of giving credit to people who are consistently wrong about everything and always showing signs of incompetence.
It doesn't have to be the result of a scheme, rather the simplest explanation is they really believed their own BS and those people standing up now are just opportunists that never liked Biden in the first place.
There is also maybe just the fact they're just too embarrassed now, you can't complain about all the silly Trump antics, covfefe or sex with porn actors and then having their own grandpa Joe almost shitting his pants on live TV.
Things like stutter or missing a step can be excused, but over 1h of live TV embarrassment?
His staff orchestrated this?
Yea okay wow, you are definitely blue maga
the last people in the administration with even a glancing familiarity with reality forced out so the lich king can cling to power with his bony fingers all the way to the gates of hell
Yea okay wow, you are definitely blue maga
yeah sounds like they're really ride or die with Biden
lib read all the way to the end of the post challenge (impossible)
I think you're being a little knee jerk here, reread the comment, supafuzz definitely isn't a Biden supporter. You're in a Hexbear comm, nobody here is pro Biden or pro Trump.
@midwest.social
Give it a few weeks, you'll pick up on how everyone talks here.
You know, I'm here for people who self censor on occasion, even if the person themselves is insufferable. I think it's an incredibly harmless thing to do, and sometimes it just reads better.
Totally fair, and i agree. In this case it smacks of false piety as the poster is quoting a song lyric, presumably as an insult since Leery's politics are about as far from Maoist Standard English as you can get.
Alright Dennis, you can say you're an asshole here among us hexagonal bears.
We won't bite
I don't think they're being pro-liberal; it comes across less as 'Biden is fine' and more 'Democrats are trying to force out their terrible candidate without being overt about it'
lmao I think you just challenged supafuzz to a fight.
they're saying a faction with the Ds wanted Biden out before the debate, there's a power struggle between that faction and Biden's, and that the faction that wanted him out has a better grip on reality. damning with faint praise isn't endorsement.
Dude is going to get pushed down the stairs by one of his handlers and I'm totally here for the chaos and high jinks that will ensue
What part of "He's too old and with signs of dementia" they don't understand?
He should just retire and enjoy the few years he's got left 🙄
Elder abuse.
If anyone deserves it, it's him. please don't make us suffer in the process though.
The elder abuse line is weak. He's choosing to do this.
He's sundowning for sure but he's lucid enough before 5 o'clock, this is all him
Project Ukraine is far too important for the Democratic donor class and those who have recently been calling for it to be ramped down had to be purged.
The Ukraine war will continue regardless, when Trump says he wants EU to pay more for NATO he is just saying the quiet part out loud. The EU already is like 2/3s of Ukraine's funding and they are completely just funneling money to the US MIC anyway. Beligium F-16s comes at the cost of giving them F-35s.
If somehow Trump does retreat from Ukraine and the EU accepts it they'll move on to China anyway, replace the EU with Korea/Japan/Taiwan money.
The deep(er) state/long term historical Nazi project in Ukraine will remain for generations to come, the only way to end it is if Russia captures and revolutionizes the entire country, the chances of that are minimal. Ukrainian nazis will remain between two walls: Poland/Eastern European hate towards slavs and their own self hatred towards Eastern Ukrainians and Russia.
They should do it. Fire the staff and burn those bridges, cut them loose, maybe tell the press thr mismanaged the campaign. Heck, run the campaign themselves. What could go wrong?
The imperial and consort clan of the Great Khan urges the Great Khan to purge his topmost eunuchs officials in hopes of further consolidating political power within the imperial bureaucracy of the Western Horde.
Only tangentially related but one of the lines I'm seeing trotted out is that it's too late to replace him because the new candidate would have to start from zero, like it's 1910 and we haven't invented radio yet lol
Other reporting held that Hunter was one of Biden's strongest supporters to stay in the campaign.
Other reporting held that Hunter was one of Biden's strongest supporters to stay in the campaign.
Failsons cannot fail, only be failed.
He must continue failing upward.
The patriots are in control.
I'M VOOOOOOOTING 
