I loved the first movie but this shit is so ass. Did the writers hit their heads before writing this one?

The ending of the first one was a huge payoff while the ending for this feels like trash tier fanfiction.

  • homhom9000 [she/her]
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    3 months ago

    I read a review by Nathan Rabin that summed up my feelings properly

    Joker: Folie à Deux is a comic book movie that is ashamed to be a comic book movie. It’s also a musical that’s ashamed to be a musical. Finally, it is a sequel that is ashamed to be a sequel because it knows just as much as we do that the only reason it exists is because the first one made a billion fucking dollars.

    Full Review

    • jackmarxist [any]
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      3 months ago

      Tbf not even the first film was particularly a comic book movie. It was more about how people at the bottom of a capitalist society are beaten down by the system and society in general. Arthur going insane and shooting John Oliver in the head was such a great ending.

      • Adkml [he/him]
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        3 months ago

        The first movie was very careful not to actually say anything, especially without any conviction.

        You took the message that it was about how society beats poor people down, chids thought it was a movie about how unfairly men are treated in modern society, people with mental health issues thought it was about how the system failed them.

        No solutions are given to any of these vaguely referenced issues and if the King of Comedy didn't exist I'm not sure they could have actually come up with an ending to this movie because they might have had to actually resolve any of those themes.

        • jackmarxist [any]
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          3 months ago

          Yeah that's correct. For me Arthur's insanity is kind of a collective insanity of people who've been beaten down their entire lives. The mental health tones are pretty spot on so I can relate with Arthur to some extent.