Get the “ but we’re liberals 🤓” joke out now.

Obviously we’re very far left and vocal about being anti establishment, some things I’ve seen posted here, whilst I won’t admit I agree with :) are pretty sus from a feds perspective. If the site was raided and if people were subject to arrests, what do you think they would be charged with? We’re obviously on a list of course but the same can be said about all people tbh so I don’t really care about that, but since the political sphere in the US is becoming more mask off fash from both parties especially the drump comment about “enemy within” what do you think the future is? Also what crime is committed exactly? Might be a weird example but places like Georgia are racially targeting rappers by using their lyrics as evidence that they have committed crimes, couldn’t something similar happen here on this space? Does anyone have any examples of what the crime committed would be exactly or does it fall under freeze-peach.

I think it’s already been alarming for years but even more so with the multitude of arrests of people in support of Palestine including students who were just present at protests. I’ve seen people on here say we have to be organized etc in order for feds to take an initiative, but who knows exactly.

I just wanna know what crime and what jail I’ll be sent to if it all comes to that

  • thebartermyth [he/him]
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    29 days ago

    imo the site would just be shut down in some way. Many of the state's domestic repressive functions are more easily carried out by non-state actors. Like FICO score or getting categorized as 'extremist' in an HR consulting database. This sort of thing materially pushes people into situations where they'd be arrested for something more mundane.

    Other than that, there are other forms of carcerality or social ostrisization if people fall outside of social norms in real life. So maybe in IRL we say "hey isn't making kids say the pledge of allegiance every day sorta weird and bad?" and someone responds that it would be unamerican not to and that their dad died in iraq or something and that the pledge honors them... and etc etc... suddenly vaguely left people irl who were gonna join the DSA but didn't ever get around to it are indistinguishable from maoist guerillas because US body politic is ridiculous.

    • thebartermyth [he/him]
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      29 days ago

      Like I'm already "on a list", but for completely non-political reasons (crimes lol).

      • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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        29 days ago

        I'm pretty sure I'm on multiple lists. Hexbear would just be another one to add to the pile. This list includes:

        • Looking at a copy of the Anarchist's Cookbook from my local library.
        • Downloading songs off Napster/Limewire
        • Downloading and reading the Unibomber manifesto
        • Buying all three volumes of Kapital and the Communist Manifesto.
        • Owning a Koran
        • Relatives involved in local gangs
        • Association with drug addicts
        • Relatives who are Feds (I know...ew)
        • Basic understanding of how to make a nuclear bomb
        • Basic knowledge of making chemical weapons (like nerve gas)

        I'm sure there's more. Those are just the ones I can think of when younger me was a dumbass thinking a firewall was as much security you would ever need back in 2005.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          29 days ago

          Damn. I just remembered that Bush and Friends tried to get librarians to keep lists of who checked out political books.

    • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]
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      29 days ago

      or getting categorized as 'extremist' in an HR consulting database.

      what-the-hell I hope this isn't why it was so hard for me to find a job

      • thebartermyth [he/him]
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        29 days ago

        Hopefully you'll be reassured to learn that McKinsey & Company is one of the larger industry players.