Found at the DDR museum in Berlin. Apparently making childrens play with each other is communist propaganda.

Parenti quote.

  • EelBolshevikism [none/use name]
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    4 hours ago

    used to teach kids from ages 10-17

    that's like seven years at a minimum after they start being conditioned to BE selfish monsters, idk this seems like a more systemic issue than a biological 'kids need to be kept in line regardless of social structure' thing

    in fact i think it's borderline reactionary. yeah kids are gross and selfish and shitty but who taught them to be that way? they had ten or more years of experience at that point. if people treat you as subhuman, not worthy of consultation, and inherently worthless and a drain of resources for ten years and you have no other experiences you'd be fucked up too (case in point: you/everyone here probably was fucked up until they experienced things other than being treated like that)

    edit: read theory https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/toby-rollo-brian-davis-arthur-silber-no-against-adult-supremacy-vol-10

    you're probably right to be annoyed, actually. but that isn't the kid's fault that they're doing stupid shit while they're learning. it's the fault of us underpaying and forcing teachers and child care workers to work too many hours simultaneously, because we don't treat them as valuable as they are. child care workers should be paid like degree holding medical doctors at minimum

    In this manner, the child is prevented from developing a genuine, authentic sense of self. As he grows older, this deadening of his soul desensitizes the child to the pain of others. Eventually, the maturing adult will seek to express his repressed anger on external targets, since he has never been allowed to experience and express it in ways that would not be destructive. By such means, the cycle of violence is continued into another generation (using “violence” in the broadest sense). One of the additional consequences is that the adult, who has never developed an authentic self, can easily transfer his idealization of his parents to a new authority figure.

    Whoops! We Made Ten Year Old Hitler!

    • Poogona [he/him]
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      2 hours ago

      Okay this is a very earnest examination of a little joke I was making but I will say that I agree, it's just that kids at like 5 simply can't really conceive of a "social contract" for the most part

      There are some cool chimp studies though that showcase how infant humans and infant chimps, when presented with a little "play" involving a shape atop a hill that pushes another shape down whenever it climbs up, have very different priorities. When presented with physical toys that match the shapes from the play, infant humans usually chose the shape that was getting pushed down, while the infant chimps chose the "dominant" shape

      It's not super conclusive tbh but it's cute that kids seemingly want to console the bullied actor