Found at the DDR museum in Berlin. Apparently making childrens play with each other is communist propaganda.
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Lol I was there recently and also noticed that. The whole museum was full of propaganda, but it was cool to see some of the exhibits, like the Trabant. Some "fun" anticommunist highlights included:
- The dystopian evil jail cell run by the communist dictators (about the same size as the room I rent in [major city, imperial core country])
- The dystopian evil kindergarten with a rigid schedule including play and nap time
- The dystopian evil standard allocated apartment that EVERYONE had and there was NO individuality (much bigger than the room I rent, and for much less money)
- The dystopian evil SEX that all the HORNY EAST GERMANS were having (the museum explained it as a result of there being nothing else to do, lol)
- The dystopian evil DIY repair culture
- The dystopian evil tired bureaucrats who looked more like people than Bond villains
- The dystopian evil LGBTs who weren't forbidden from existing by the state
- The factory farming that happened under the DDR (which, like, as a vegan, sure, but it's not like the Federal Republic or any Western country wasn't doing this)
- There was literally a panel saying that all Eastern bloc states weren't allowed to deviate from the USSR's policies or will, then gave an example of the DDR doing just that to resist Soviet reforms in '85
And every single bullet point here made my blood boil (supposed to be a translation of some of the key terms, without propaganda):
spoiler (sorry, I only photographed the English text)
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Anyways, I guess I funded anticommunist propaganda by visiting and also buying a DDR patch
The fact that all children are inherently objectivist is such a hard pill to swallow 😔
Speaking as a parent, I can say that all babies are born Libertarian. Even liberal education systems understand that they need that shit socializing out of them at an early age
Some erudite museum curator painstakingly describing cultural and historical backdrop to Boom Boom Dollar.
What the fuck, please show me even a single kindergarten in the world where things are not done as a collective, not only early socialisation of children is the point, but there's one teacher per group.
Whomever wrote this must be a camouflaged Solarian from Asimov books.
By contrast, this is preferable to those that hate the ideas on that paper:
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kindergarteners should have their "individual initiative" suppressed, kids at that age are SOCIOPATHS
for real. I have some childless friends. which I should say I am also childless, but I like kids and used to teach kids from ages 10-17. my friends have never worked with kids and never interact with them, but they remember school as being mean to them and not letting them achieve their maximum individual potential, so they think kids should just have all this unstructured magic playtime to explore their own genius.
I'm not saying we need to be shitty to them, but kids are crazy. they need to be constantly reminded not to cough in others' faces, not to dig in their own assholes and then touch group food, not to act like goddam maniac when someone it's someone else's turn with a shared resource, and that it's important to play in a group activity or accomplish a task with a partner and realize a shared vision.
kids can be absolutely fuckin bonkers' ass little terrorist monsters with no impulse control, and people who think they are magic enlightened angels should be forced to work with them for like one day.
Rofl this is probably caused by the hilarious reactions she gets when she does this, either the elation adults show because it's funny af or the shock and surprise being entertaining. Discouraging it is very difficult and a lot of kids do it for the same reasons - incorrect reactions from those around them end up reinforcing the behaviour.
You've touched on some unexamined thoughts that rattle around in my brain. I'd like to formally say "oh yeah, huh..."
used to teach kids from ages 10-17
that's like seven years at a minimum after they start being conditioned to BE selfish monsters, idk this seems like a more systemic issue than a biological 'kids need to be kept in line regardless of social structure' thing
in fact i think it's borderline reactionary. yeah kids are gross and selfish and shitty but who taught them to be that way? they had ten or more years of experience at that point. if people treat you as subhuman, not worthy of consultation, and inherently worthless and a drain of resources for ten years and you have no other experiences you'd be fucked up too (case in point: you/everyone here probably was fucked up until they experienced things other than being treated like that)
edit: read theory https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/toby-rollo-brian-davis-arthur-silber-no-against-adult-supremacy-vol-10
you're probably right to be annoyed, actually. but that isn't the kid's fault that they're doing stupid shit while they're learning. it's the fault of us underpaying and forcing teachers and child care workers to work too many hours simultaneously, because we don't treat them as valuable as they are. child care workers should be paid like degree holding medical doctors at minimum
In this manner, the child is prevented from developing a genuine, authentic sense of self. As he grows older, this deadening of his soul desensitizes the child to the pain of others. Eventually, the maturing adult will seek to express his repressed anger on external targets, since he has never been allowed to experience and express it in ways that would not be destructive. By such means, the cycle of violence is continued into another generation (using “violence” in the broadest sense). One of the additional consequences is that the adult, who has never developed an authentic self, can easily transfer his idealization of his parents to a new authority figure.
Whoops! We Made Ten Year Old Hitler!
Okay this is a very earnest examination of a little joke I was making but I will say that I agree, it's just that kids at like 5 simply can't really conceive of a "social contract" for the most part
There are some cool chimp studies though that showcase how infant humans and infant chimps, when presented with a little "play" involving a shape atop a hill that pushes another shape down whenever it climbs up, have very different priorities. When presented with physical toys that match the shapes from the play, infant humans usually chose the shape that was getting pushed down, while the infant chimps chose the "dominant" shape
It's not super conclusive tbh but it's cute that kids seemingly want to console the bullied actor
I'm genuinely pretty sure the DDR Museum in Berlin is run by socialists who want you to notice this, I swear to god that entire fucking place makes 0 sense otherwise. All the stations are like this, they're describing something good that nominally west germany did or still does but then describe it as bad because the communists did it, it ends with you looking at ginormous flat which it tells you cost the equivalent of 50€ per month or something and that nobody but the the richest 5% of the country could afford in Berlin today, before letting you out via the gift store full of DDR nostalgia to buy. Even all the most unpolitical, co-worker-belief-system people I've went there with caught on to it.
Yes, i think there is a panel where it tells you that some worker for a 3 room apartment pays 10% of their salary. Then they show you a standard 3 room apartment and while going through it I was so surprised because I would never be able to afford anything even close to it.
But all the museum is about how people where oppressed and poor !?
I think the most egregious one to me was the stasi listening post that said they listened in to every 3rd person or something along those lines. this was post snowden, so by objective metrics that seemed a lot better than the allied NSA listening in to 100% of everything lol
Stasi emplyed less people per capita than western German secret service lol, seems like somebody had read way too much Oh'well
Stasi emplyed less people per capita than western German secret service lol
Mistake
"This is because the evil communist government hated the free market and smol bean landlords
"IIRC their big bad scary point, and admittedly that works on most germans, is that you have a Tram station right outside since nobody could afford or get cars
Driving is horrible and I want to die everytime I do it. I'd take the tram station over driving anyday.
: “Well, the people who MATTERED were oppressed and poor! How were they supposed to feel good about themselves if even the weak were allowed to live?”
I wouldn’t give them too much credit considering they took the idea from indigenous Americans
In the modern european iteration, yeah, even the name is German.
Is this not how kindergartens are everywhere in the world or am I missing something? They are trying to make it sound extra nefarious
Okay but nap time was fucking bullshit and I had better things to do than lay on a cot pretending to sleep for an hour or whatever the fuck.
It was truly afwul.
Except that one time when some girl laying next to me was trying to teach me how to count to a 100. I tried to show it off to my parents later that day but couldn't remember any numbers past 50
What lead paint huffing fever dream has these dipshits thinking life under capitalism "encourages the development of individual ability"
It's just a nice way of saying that under capitalism "children will be left alone, to fend for themselves".
"We would throw them to the forest to live with wolves, but both wolves and forests seems to disappear under our glorious system"
socialism is when all people in the world love each other but unironically
Yes hi I'm sending my kid to kindergarden in Germany right now. It's the same thing under capitalism 😲
Except there's worse coverage, non-german citizens get discriminated by not getting the same coverage and it costs 250€/hour if you go out of pocket.
also the wait lists in some major cities are so long that you might want to get your kid on them before you even get pregnant
This person is gonna absolutely lose their shit if anyone ever tells them about schools.
their orietntal indoctrination facilities vs our free and benevolent prussian education system
