And the men who enable them by pretending to be into it just for sex are just as bad

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    I’m allowed to think someone is wrong and misinformed. Wiccan shit is snake oil salesman. The people are into it are the same people who buy essential oils.

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      You're allowed to do whatever you want I'm words on the internet not a cop (more on that later). I have an elderly neighbor who does crystal and faith healing stuff, and has offered to do it to me a few times. I don't have any reason to believe it works, but I politely accept because it's more important for me not feel like a raging asshole than it is share with everyone just how I think the world works.

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        Problem is those people are the same people who don’t vaccinate their kids and are anti hospitals blood transfusions etc. it’s harmful 😜

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            Half of the wiccans of which I know a shit ton from being in the rave scene I know aren’t. Are pro essential oil pro faith healing. My anecdotal evidence has as much validity as yours. It’s not a stereotype I literally interact with these people constantly. It’s not sexist to point out wiccans are anti science. You are just a Mayo looking for oppression points when you aren’t marginalized at all. I know over 20 of these people. It’s not a small sample size

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              anti science.

              Coming from a scientist; read Kuhn and Feyerabend and don't pin your worldview on this notion of science as some impartial arbiter of truth. We're normal people just like everyone else.

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                This is condescending as shit. I have a neuroscience degree. I am a scientist too. I never said it was impartial I said it’s actual evidence of which wiccanism has none

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                  said it’s actual evidence

                  This isn't actually how things work.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duhem%E2%80%93Quine_thesis

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory-ladenness

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_holism

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                    Your making the same argument that fundamentalists use for anti vaccination. Just because there is always going to be bias doesn’t mean scientifically proven things are equally valid to things with no scientific evidence. I like how your earlier post condescendingly assumes I’m not a scientist and then states thingy veiled reactionary anti intellectualism. Science is biased as fuck. I never said it wasn’t. But there are actual ways to show something is true scientifically using the scientific method. That is until it’s disproven. Which most things are. However until that point of where it’s disproven you can’t just shake it off and away by saying since everything is biased you can’t assume anything scientifically that is proven is inherently true

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                      Your making the same argument that fundamentalists use for anti vaccination.

                      They certainly are related; I used to do the exact same thing you're doing now and argue for sciences inherent superiority on the internet, but then I realized that didn't actually do anything. People disagree with science, and in a democracy, you can't just peer-review away their democratic power to block science-based policy.

                      You are welcome to roll up to a WV coal mining city with a 10 ft stack of papers on global warming and a worldview that says that you know better than everyone else and announce that scientists have decided that all the people there are going to be laid off but that's okay because we'll help you retrain as Uber drivers. But then, they're just gonna vote for the guy firing his rifle into the air shouting "FREEEDOMM" and we're all gonna die.

                      Also, my argument isn't really about bias, you should look into those links a bit it's a very fascinating look into the underdetermination of scientific theories.

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                  I have a neuroscience degree.

                  Hey chapos, I found Ben Carson's ghost!

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          That's the wonderful thing about it! Because I've actually treated her like a person as opposed to a rube to be corrected, she'll actually come by and run medical decisions by me. She asked me if she should get a covid vaccine and we decided that she was going to ask her doctor and commit to whatever he says.