I merged the headline and the first paragraph.

Honda and Nissan have formally agreed to hold talks over the next six months on a possible merger, a deal that would create the world’s third-largest automaker and give them more resources to compete with a growing threat from Chinese carmakers.

    • ryepunk [he/him]
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      3 days ago

      Nope, the American will never accept a foreign made truck. The Toyota had some impeccable indestructible trucks and Ford and Chevy outsold them. At this point you need to sell a truck the size of a school bus to satisfy the average American truck buyer.

      • BobDole [none/use name]
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        3 days ago

        I see Toyota trucks all the time. They’re usually scratched up with toolboxes and shit in the bed. The American trucks are the pristine “pavement princesses” covered in chud stickers.

        (I drive an old used Toyota sedan for reference; this isn’t me trying to blow myself)

      • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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        3 days ago

        as one of thousands of assholes that has such an undying affection for older, light duty trucks that I own one... yes we would. america defacto banned light duty pickups in the 70s with the chicken tax, which is why that market segment vanished by the 90s. I have one of the last ones and it is about 12 months from qualifying for "antique" status.

        everybody as his brother asks me about it and if I'm interested in selling.

        the US can't compete with foreign made when it comes to smaller, efficient anything so the regulators stepped in to do protectionism 50 years ago. that's why the only trucks you can find anymore of 4 door, tiny bed monstrosities and a shitload of actual tradesmen are rocking old pickups or fuckin awd subaru hatchbacks.

        • culpritus [any]
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          3 days ago

          Red states are starting to make K trucks street legal as a way to have more work truck options available to folks, just completely ridiculous federal policy in this area.

      • BoxedFenders [any, comrade/them]
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        3 days ago

        Not quite true as the Tacoma and Tundra are always among the top 20 best selling cars in America. They aren't perceived as foreign trucks because they are actually as American as they come- they're built in San Antonio and designed for the US market. I often see them used as chudmobiles- full Trump regalia decked out in US flags, Punisher logos, blue line and NRA stickers galore. But yeah, the big 3 domestic trucks do outsell them overall.

      • john_brown [comrade/them]
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        3 days ago

        Toyota doesn't have trucks sitting on lots. People love those fucking things in America.

        • krolden@lemmy.ml
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          2 days ago

          Their new ones definitely are. They want upwards of 70k for the new Tacomas and the engines are all different now which rubs a lot of people the wrong way when theyre buying for reliability.

          • john_brown [comrade/them]
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            2 days ago

            what do you mean, twin turbos with separate air to water intercoolers but a single intercooler water reservoir is a genius move by the big brain boys at toyota think-about-it

      • LanyrdSkynrd [comrade/them, any]
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        3 days ago

        I live in a place where way too many people drive pickups, and I've been seeing a lot more new Toyota trucks in the last few years.

        I think it's because they're almost as big as an F-150 now and they sell them with factory lift kits and all the luxury crap that makes them look like any other dumbass Chevy Childsmusher 1500.

      • gueybana [any]
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        3 days ago

        Tbf the f150, the most ameriburger vehicle of all, has 22 mpg.

    • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      3 days ago

      We already have the Frontier, it doesn't really sell amazingly but it sells.

      I wish we'd get the international market frontier. But instead we're stuck with the same 20 year old car, but with a face lift in like 2020.

      • john_brown [comrade/them]
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        3 days ago

        Yeah, that's why I think a Honda Frontier with a Honda drivetrain would sell well. Plenty of people want a basic simple small truck but might balk at Nissans due to reputation, earned or otherwise. The Ridgeline isn't quite truck enough so slotting in a body on frame, solid rear axle option to the line-up seems like a home run.