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I guess I was right in being suspicious of western urbanists who were always deafeningly silent on massive projects in China but won’t shut up for weeks about the Dutch king taking a bike-shaped shit. This is how they respond when they are forcibly confronted with the topic.
I have to disagree with you on that one. It’s not really a mystery why a pro-China comment is getting downvoted on reddit.
Productive discussions on western urbanism have been and can be had in this thread. It’s not just about these people specifically but about widespread attitudes embodied herein.
Oh no I agree, my point here was that it isn't necessarily downvoted for the Urbanism thing but the China thing. I think the same post just generalizing Asia would've gone much different.