I also wonder about the opposite of this like since rednote is mostly kind of a space for more pro western liberalized Chinese young people, how many of them are gonna get scared straight talking to Americans lol
Exactly, while Americans are discovering that much of what their government said about China was false, the Chinese are realizing that conditions in the US are as bad, or worse, than their own government said.
Mass shootings in the US get way less coverage in China because it gets to a point where people start dismissing it as propaganda. Big ones make the news for a while, but most of them get touched on briefly and the news moves on.
Like, surely, after your 3rd mass shooting in a decade, the government would step in and do something about it, right?
I'm like 50:50 as to whether news out of China specifically just short-circuits a populaces brain that cannot even imagine anymore that the people like a government. I mean you look at like global north numbers and it peaks at, what, 30% or so? Removed from everything else I get the feeling the idea that you could like a government has died
Reminds me of a saying from the SSRs after '91: "Everything they told us about communism was a lie, and everything they told us about capitalism was true."
Except, you know, Chinese people seem to really like their communist party
Also I don't know how much these types of posts say anything about anything because these people have no object permanence and tend to believe whatever's in front of them or the last thing said to them. They have probably looked at Chinese netizens debunking of their priors with the same scrutiny as their original wrong opinions. XHS gets banned and all of these people will revert to treatlerites within 1 hour of returning to instagram or w/e.
Yea i dont expect it will trigger any introspection in people like “oh maybe I should be more critical of what the state dept says about x.” They’ll believe the very next lie they’re told even lol. But hopefully with respect to China itself it’ll erode the anti-Chinese/anti-communist sentiment among a decent portion of young(ish) people
Even if the only result is this leaves the door cracked open for non-US Hegemonic PoV as part of this "believing the last thing you heard," that's still a vast improvement over being fully ensorceled by the propaganda machine.
So many are so surprised about how expensive it is to live in the US, and how the median citizen really doesn't earn enough to live well. College tuition and student loans are another one.
I also wonder about the opposite of this like since rednote is mostly kind of a space for more pro western liberalized Chinese young people, how many of them are gonna get scared straight talking to Americans lol
Exactly, while Americans are discovering that much of what their government said about China was false, the Chinese are realizing that conditions in the US are as bad, or worse, than their own government said.
Just saw this on Twitter lol
Mass shootings in the US get way less coverage in China because it gets to a point where people start dismissing it as propaganda. Big ones make the news for a while, but most of them get touched on briefly and the news moves on.
Like, surely, after your 3rd mass shooting in a decade, the government would step in and do something about it, right?
"We've had 15 mass shootings in 2025 so far"
"You mean in the 2020's, right?"
"Nope"
Time taken for 15 most recent mass shootings in Australia: 20 years
Time taken for 15 most recent mass shootings in USA: 14 days
One would think!
I'm like 50:50 as to whether news out of China specifically just short-circuits a populaces brain that cannot even imagine anymore that the people like a government. I mean you look at like global north numbers and it peaks at, what, 30% or so? Removed from everything else I get the feeling the idea that you could like a government has died
Reminds me of a saying from the SSRs after '91: "Everything they told us about communism was a lie, and everything they told us about capitalism was true."
Except, you know, Chinese people seem to really like their communist party
Yeah, CPC thankfully managed to avoid the pitfalls of KPRF.
was thinking this. the radicalization can go both ways
Also I don't know how much these types of posts say anything about anything because these people have no object permanence and tend to believe whatever's in front of them or the last thing said to them. They have probably looked at Chinese netizens debunking of their priors with the same scrutiny as their original wrong opinions. XHS gets banned and all of these people will revert to treatlerites within 1 hour of returning to instagram or w/e.
Yea i dont expect it will trigger any introspection in people like “oh maybe I should be more critical of what the state dept says about x.” They’ll believe the very next lie they’re told even lol. But hopefully with respect to China itself it’ll erode the anti-Chinese/anti-communist sentiment among a decent portion of young(ish) people
Even if the only result is this leaves the door cracked open for non-US Hegemonic PoV as part of this "believing the last thing you heard," that's still a vast improvement over being fully ensorceled by the propaganda machine.
So many are so surprised about how expensive it is to live in the US, and how the median citizen really doesn't earn enough to live well. College tuition and student loans are another one.