A term taken from a Chinese proverb about opportunity in a crisis, ‘touching fish’ means being lazy at work – a philosophy China’s Generation Z workers increasingly embrace as a response to being underpaid and overworked.
edit: downvoted for asking someone to do basic research? after i posted a ton of links up there? I didn't even mean this in a mean way, i just want more facts. bruh
the whole thing about these China struggle sesshions is like, we barely have any info because of the distance/language barrier/propoganda machines. So any actual information on what is ACTUALLY going on is extremely valuable to me. I want to find the actual facts.
In this case it looks like we know the following:
996 is blantantly illegal. But workers, and zoomers esp are organazing against it. and Jack Ma, a huge proponent of 996 among other corruption, has disappeared. We do not, as far as i know, know if these Chinese government is actually doing anything about 996. I saw they can fine the companies in that wikipedia page, but that's not really a great source for real on the ground information.
Since the downvoter declined to do any research, i actually decided to look into it.
China’s top government media outlets are adding their voices to the debate around the 12-hour work practice in the tech industry, harshly reminding entrepreneurs to “obey the rules” and “avoid chaos.”
So at least they're saying it's illegal in 2019. I still cant find any links to what sort of enforcement they are doing to prevent or curtail 996 though. I would genuinely like to know if anyone can find any sources about it.
I looked for anything new on Ma and the 996 scheme but couldn't find anything on that.
Shenzhen seems to be taking some steps to contend with the 996 system or the general extreme workload:
From next year, employers must “strictly implement” paid leave, so that those “with a heavy mental and physical workload can avoid excessive burnout,” according to regulations approved in October and recently explained by the city’s work committee, the government-backed Shenzhen News reported on Tuesday.
Although there might be loopholes to that:
The document did not specify how many days of paid leave would be enforced under the rule which applies to “staff”, with the status of contractors less clear. link for both quotes
Meanwhile, in Amerikkka,
lol and of course they are stanning that system jfc
that basically says it all.
wow, thanks for finding that! It seems like china still has a ways to go in enforcement, though at least they're taking steps. Hopefully with the nationalization of Alibaba and Ant group, those labor violations will simply cease once the goverment gets their hands on them. We'll have to wait and see, i guess.
Regardless, all power to the zoomer vanguard and workers who are unionizing against 996.:red-fist:
i mean, apparently they are if you believe reddit about what happened to jack ma ;)
One dude, and if he got got it was probably not for labor violations, right?
idk, why don't you research and it find out?
edit: downvoted for asking someone to do basic research? after i posted a ton of links up there? I didn't even mean this in a mean way, i just want more facts. bruh
Maybe because I can't read mandarin?
damn, i can't either. guess we're in the same boat
why was this downvoted????? lol
people bein catty smdh my head
i don't get it smdh i wasn't trying to be mean, i literally want to know if people have more sources
I definitely didn't take it as such either, sorry.
the whole thing about these China struggle sesshions is like, we barely have any info because of the distance/language barrier/propoganda machines. So any actual information on what is ACTUALLY going on is extremely valuable to me. I want to find the actual facts.
In this case it looks like we know the following:
996 is blantantly illegal. But workers, and zoomers esp are organazing against it. and Jack Ma, a huge proponent of 996 among other corruption, has disappeared. We do not, as far as i know, know if these Chinese government is actually doing anything about 996. I saw they can fine the companies in that wikipedia page, but that's not really a great source for real on the ground information.
Since the downvoter declined to do any research, i actually decided to look into it.
https://technode.com/2019/04/16/china-state-996-illegal/
So at least they're saying it's illegal in 2019. I still cant find any links to what sort of enforcement they are doing to prevent or curtail 996 though. I would genuinely like to know if anyone can find any sources about it.
Meanwhile, in Amerikkka,
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rebeccafannin/2019/05/05/why-chinas-996-work-culture-makes-sense-right-now/?sh=1f99901e7802
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Oh shit, good tip thank you!
I looked for anything new on Ma and the 996 scheme but couldn't find anything on that.
Shenzhen seems to be taking some steps to contend with the 996 system or the general extreme workload:
Although there might be loopholes to that:
lol and of course they are stanning that system jfc
that basically says it all.
wow, thanks for finding that! It seems like china still has a ways to go in enforcement, though at least they're taking steps. Hopefully with the nationalization of Alibaba and Ant group, those labor violations will simply cease once the goverment gets their hands on them. We'll have to wait and see, i guess.
Regardless, all power to the zoomer vanguard and workers who are unionizing against 996.:red-fist:
I was referring to the instant downvote they got not you <3
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