• zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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    4 years ago

    How would you say someone is actually communist or not?

    A lot of what westerners kick and scream about China doing amounts to "they're not paying us rents!"

    From the fight over IP to territorial control of the provinces, Chinese people are consistently telling western imperialists to GTFO.

    This also happens to be why Putin has sent DC into fits for over twenty years. Despite overthrowing the Russian Communist Party, Americans did not succeed in capturing the Russian lands or the productive labors their peoples.

    That, I think, is a necessary precondition for any kind of Communist state. It's the defining characteristic that separates a Commune from a Plantation.

    I think it's hard to dissect what's going on inside China, and whether the labor value of the proletariat is truly coming back to them in any meaningful quantity. But from the outside, they're keeping the claws of expropriative Westerners off their backs.

    That's got to count for something.

    • aws0me [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      But opposition to imperialism is something that Iran also does, and Iran bans communist parties and flogs striking workers. It's not enough to simply be opposed to the West. Even Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan was opposed to the Anglos and went to war with them.