I’ve read a bit about Stalin and I’ve never heard of these letters. A quick search hasn’t turned anything up—does anyone know where this comes from?

I’d like to be able to say something more substantial than “you’re wrong and don’t have sources.”

  • comi [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Letter existed, but it’s usual nonsense, like yeah we have to cool down high tensions, hope Molotov-Ribbentrop pact will allow for peace (2 letters in 1939). Allegedly two letters in 1941 that German troops are just hiding from britain near ussr borders

    • wombat [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      wow I can't believe stalin tried to avoid a war against a fascist regime that openly wanted to exterminate the entire soviet population (and largely did so in the areas it occupied.) Did stalin's evil have no bounds???

      • comi [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Tbh, still not sure forcing that line in the internationale was productive, or even needed :shrug-outta-hecks: but excuse that troops are hiding from english near Poland is hilarious, civ tier diplomacy

        • Pezevenk [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          but excuse that troops are hiding from english near Poland is hilarious, civ tier diplomacy

          I'm a bit confused about what you are saying here.

          • comi [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            You know, in civilization four (maybe?) when you amass troops near borders of another civilization, you’ll get some pop-up denounciation from that civ, and you can reply they are merely passing through or something similarly innocuous. Yeah, I’ve g*med in the past :sadness:

            • Pezevenk [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Oh lol I know that, I play Civ, but I'm not sure what the connection you made to WWII was, what specific event was it about?

              • comi [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                Allegedly hitler send two letters to stalin roughly in January and may of 1941 (so 5 and 1 month before invasion), saying that German troops were training for the invasion of british isles, and were hiding from their spies/sabotage, and then, in may, that some generals might do something stupid and not react to provocations. I think in rise of third reich they are sourced from some german archive, and apparently zhukov has also referenced them