1. Marx agreed that capitalism is very good at rapid economic growth, which is why Lenin implemented the NEP and Deng Xiaoping implemented the liberal reforms. So why abandon that completely for the system like in Cuba or North Korea which are very inefficient and grow slowly?

  2. Norway, Sweden, Iceland etc are the best places to live on earth. Clearly social democracy has provided the goods. Of course in recent years, due to neoliberalism, those countries are not as great places to live anymore, but they are still the best in the world. So why are you against social democracy if when implemented correctly, it is the best system we have seen? Communism also if not implemented correctly produced horrific results, its all about the implementation. Ideas alone are not enough.

  3. The vast majority of workers do not want communism. How will you try to establish communism democratically when people dont want it? When people say they want socialism, they usually talk about social programs or nationalization of key industries, rather than implementing Cuba or North Korea economy, no one wants that.

EDIT : I have another question. Are communists willing to work with social-democrats? Obviously neoliberalism and fascism are bigger threats, so wouldnt it make sense to vote for and support social democrats like AOC in USA or Corbyn in UK or Mélenchon in France?

  • Liberalism [he/him,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    1: Capitalism is very good at rapid economic growth in comparison to feudalism and mercantilism, not in general.

    2: Social democracy depends on exploitation of third world countries, requires constant struggle to preserve even meager improvements, and most importantly leaves needless and exploitative structures intact. If you support capitalism in any form, your responsibility is to answer the question, "what good does the bourgeoisie do?". Why bother keeping them around at all, especially when they're going to use their outsize wealth and influence to try and destroy everything you worked so hard to build?

    3: Popular support can be won, that's essentially the first step.

    4: Yes. Social democrats and other leftists don't really become political opponents until we reach the extremely desirable stage where social democrats are the political right and communists the political left. And if that ever happens we will have already accomplished a lot.