I'm collaborating with a colleague on a team project to make a video and they just a bought brand new fancy $$$$$ laptop (apple) they had to connect a big clunky adapter to connect a fucking thumb drive because they don't come with USB ports anymore.
at some point with the constant reduction of default capabilities (with zero savings passed on to the consumer and no increase in value going to labor), even the most committed Duplo fan is going to see they they are getting played... right?
Their users like that though. It's the feeling of being ruled by a benevolent dictator who has only your best interests at heart. Trust the educated! It's always worked.
The laptops don’t the desktops still do. One of my coworkers has one bc for better or worse apple is the industry standard in my industry, and it’s obnoxious how many converters he has to use lol.
Yeah, I get it. "Oh, you still use those stinky old USB types? We don't any more. We have Apple, the best. I only use the finest accessories, thus proving I'm a high status person."
For us it’s pretty silly bc it would require a lot of upgrading tons of hardware. But yeah he has this giant hunk of metal hanging on his laptop so he can plug in all the gear we use lol
Uhhh they definitely come with USB ports, they're just USB-C now which is the newest form-factor and can do a lot more cool stuff than the older ones. It will just be a bit before everything uses USB-C but there are probably plenty of USB-C flash drives.
USB-C adoption will only increase. It always takes years before a standard is widespread. Most Android phones use it, there's an iPad that uses it. I assume most new laptop models have it. Headphones have it. You can find a USB-C version of more and more peripherals. Basically whenever you buy a new device just make sure it has USB-C. And it will be a much longer-lasting standard than micro USB or others. It can be used for graphics (ie replace HDMI), analog audio, charging and charging negotiation, etc. So it can replace a lot of other things.
I'm aware it can be used for a lot, my monitor is currently plugged in via USB C to display port.
I guess what I want to say is, its fucking idiotic to have only USB-C. Its been over three years and I'm still seeing people lug around adapters, which means it was a failure of design to ditch the old style all together.
It could have been half and half, or maybe just one idk.
I didn't question her assessment of her own laptop, but I did watch her hook up some absurd firewire to USB adapter to connect the flash drive and copy files.
maybe you just haven't seen the latest and greatest innoventation of Apple!
They'd probably have to make the laptop thicker in that situation, which I guess they didn't want to do. Most thin laptops have already gotten rid of ethernet ports so USB-A ports are fair game.
in my experience, as someone who used to service computers professionally, apple users have never serviced their own shit and they invariably take it to a "genius bar" (lmao) where the overworked psycho brand loyalist can sell them some shit. it's like taking your 20 year old civic to the honda dealership because the handle for your door broke and the mechanic "must" sell you a whole new door for $900. or you take it to the offbrand guy at Joe Blow's Auto who can hook it up by only replacing the part that is actually broken for $50.
which like, hey, i get it. capitalism gonna capitalism. but jesus christ, so many of them think they are the clever consumer for dropping 5x the price on a fashion accessory that they don't even know how maintain.
I don't buy it. Laptops have had fold-out Ethernet ports for half a decade now, and you can have a USB port that's as thin as the internal "tongue" of the female USB connector if you don't mind the fat side of the male connector floating out there and an extra circuit to avoid connecting power to data if you brush something conductive.
A standard USB A port is 4.5 mm, or just under 3/16". If your laptop is thicker than 3/16", you can fit a USB A port.
The tongue of a USB A port, which can be inserted into a male USB A connector is just under 3/32. Non-standard implementations have literally just been the tongue sticking out, though I've never seen it in a laptop.
Honestly, I’d be okay with the hyperthin laptop with breakout boxes. That said the breakout boxes suck. They should be built to be part of the laptop and have ALL THE PORTS, but sometimes, you only need the main laptop.
I'm collaborating with a colleague on a team project to make a video and they just a bought brand new fancy $$$$$ laptop (apple) they had to connect a big clunky adapter to connect a fucking thumb drive because they don't come with USB ports anymore.
at some point with the constant reduction of default capabilities (with zero savings passed on to the consumer and no increase in value going to labor), even the most committed Duplo fan is going to see they they are getting played... right?
Apple computers don't come with standard USB ports now? Holy moly. That's so unusable.
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Their users like that though. It's the feeling of being ruled by a benevolent dictator who has only your best interests at heart. Trust the educated! It's always worked.
The laptops don’t the desktops still do. One of my coworkers has one bc for better or worse apple is the industry standard in my industry, and it’s obnoxious how many converters he has to use lol.
Yeah, I get it. "Oh, you still use those stinky old USB types? We don't any more. We have Apple, the best. I only use the finest accessories, thus proving I'm a high status person."
For us it’s pretty silly bc it would require a lot of upgrading tons of hardware. But yeah he has this giant hunk of metal hanging on his laptop so he can plug in all the gear we use lol
Uhhh they definitely come with USB ports, they're just USB-C now which is the newest form-factor and can do a lot more cool stuff than the older ones. It will just be a bit before everything uses USB-C but there are probably plenty of USB-C flash drives.
Its been what? 3 years? I'm not seeing widespread adoption for usb C by default.
Its already a pain to grab a flash drive that will work on a mac when you usually use Linux/windows.
USB-C adoption will only increase. It always takes years before a standard is widespread. Most Android phones use it, there's an iPad that uses it. I assume most new laptop models have it. Headphones have it. You can find a USB-C version of more and more peripherals. Basically whenever you buy a new device just make sure it has USB-C. And it will be a much longer-lasting standard than micro USB or others. It can be used for graphics (ie replace HDMI), analog audio, charging and charging negotiation, etc. So it can replace a lot of other things.
I'm aware it can be used for a lot, my monitor is currently plugged in via USB C to display port.
I guess what I want to say is, its fucking idiotic to have only USB-C. Its been over three years and I'm still seeing people lug around adapters, which means it was a failure of design to ditch the old style all together.
It could have been half and half, or maybe just one idk.
Sometimes they have to just bite the bullet but I'm sure cost-cutting is still a big part of it.
Plus keeping those particular models thin.
I didn't question her assessment of her own laptop, but I did watch her hook up some absurd firewire to USB adapter to connect the flash drive and copy files.
maybe you just haven't seen the latest and greatest innoventation of Apple!
ok boomer (yeah USB Type-A devices will need an adapter)
usb-a devices are still the vast, vast majority of all USB devices. they should include both kinds of ports
They'd probably have to make the laptop thicker in that situation, which I guess they didn't want to do. Most thin laptops have already gotten rid of ethernet ports so USB-A ports are fair game.
My X1 carbon is about the same thickness as a Macbook pro and it has full size USB.
Ever remove a glued in, inflated battery out of a laptop? Its awful.
in my experience, as someone who used to service computers professionally, apple users have never serviced their own shit and they invariably take it to a "genius bar" (lmao) where the overworked psycho brand loyalist can sell them some shit. it's like taking your 20 year old civic to the honda dealership because the handle for your door broke and the mechanic "must" sell you a whole new door for $900. or you take it to the offbrand guy at Joe Blow's Auto who can hook it up by only replacing the part that is actually broken for $50.
which like, hey, i get it. capitalism gonna capitalism. but jesus christ, so many of them think they are the clever consumer for dropping 5x the price on a fashion accessory that they don't even know how maintain.
I don't buy it. Laptops have had fold-out Ethernet ports for half a decade now, and you can have a USB port that's as thin as the internal "tongue" of the female USB connector if you don't mind the fat side of the male connector floating out there and an extra circuit to avoid connecting power to data if you brush something conductive.
I think most people would mind that.
Those people can just not use the USB A port and carry around an adapter for the USB C port.
But that non-standard design is the absolute lower limit, at just under 3/32". People have stuck USB A ports on business cards.
If your laptop is thicker than 3/16", there's no excuse for not having a standard USB A port.
Huh
A standard USB A port is 4.5 mm, or just under 3/16". If your laptop is thicker than 3/16", you can fit a USB A port.
The tongue of a USB A port, which can be inserted into a male USB A connector is just under 3/32. Non-standard implementations have literally just been the tongue sticking out, though I've never seen it in a laptop.
lol def a cool hill to die on.
Honestly, I’d be okay with the hyperthin laptop with breakout boxes. That said the breakout boxes suck. They should be built to be part of the laptop and have ALL THE PORTS, but sometimes, you only need the main laptop.