• Brak [they/them, e/em/eir]
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    1 year ago

    bud im going to sincerely tell you to re-evaluate this take. i don’t have the time to deconstruct it for ya, but the “uyghur genocide” claims are basically an astroturfed campaign by an evangelical christo-fascist named Adrian Zenz.

    his offensive bullshit got amplified by the US because they're ramping up for a second cold war with China. there’s a lot you can be critical about with China if you want, but you should base it in reality.

    i believe you’re leftist, you just have a bit more deprogramming to do when it comes to imperialism. that’s the hardest part for a lot of Americans since you’re trapped in the belly of the war beast.

    you already got a lot of the way there by supporting Palestinian liberation. You don’t have to take my word for it either, just dig into some other sources about this topic.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        On hexbear? I don't think so, lemmygrad has one though: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/216267?scrollToComments=true

        I also strongly recommend https://www.qiaocollective.com/education/xinjiang as another option.

        There were also a number of extremely large google docs projects but I don't have links to them, others might.

    • CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de
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      1 year ago

      i don’t have the time to deconstruct it for ya,

      Then you should take that time. Because

      the “uyghur genocide” claims are basically an astroturfed campaign by an evangelical christo-fascist named Adrian Zenz.

      needs damn citation. Especially in the face of these:

      Counterterrorism and Preventive Repression: China's Changing Strategy in Xinjiang

      In 2017–18, the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) changed its domestic security strategy in Xinjiang, escalating the uurlse of mass detention, ideological re-education, and pressure on Uyghur diaspora networks.

      Cultural erasure: Tracing the destruction of Uyghur and Islamic spaces in Xinjiang

      The Chinese Government has embarked on a systematic and intentional campaign to rewrite the cultural heritage of the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region (XUAR). It’s seeking to erode and redefine the culture of the Uyghurs and other Turkic-speaking communities—stripping away any Islamic, transnational or autonomous elements—in order to render those indigenous cultural traditions subservient to the ‘Chinese nation’.

      The Uyghur Genocide: An Examination of China’s Breaches of the 1948 Genocide Convention

      This report concludes that the People’s Republic of China (China) bears State responsibility for committing genocide against the Uyghurs in breach of the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (Genocide Convention) based on an extensive review of the available evidence and application of international law to the evidence of the facts on the ground.

      If you're claiming these are false, invented or otherwise untrue, you need damn good evidence.

      if you’re really leftist […]

      Really? A No True Scotsman is really bad style.

      • carl_marks_1312 [comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        https://direct.mit.edu/isec/article/44/3/9/12280/Counterterrorism-and-Preventive-Repression-China-s

        https://newlinesinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/Chinas-Breaches-of-the-GC3-2.pdf

        Zenz posting

        https://www.aspi.org.au/report/cultural-erasure

        ASPI

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Really? A No True Scotsman is really bad style.

        NTS is close to the opposite of what you are talking about. Asserting that words have definitions is not, in fact, a fallscy.

      • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        There totally aren't actual Uyghurs who have told their own stories or anything like that.

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony

        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/13/why-do-north-korean-defector-testimonies-so-often-fall-apart

        Just because someone says something doesn't mean it's true. Do you think cops ever lie when they testify?

      • Brak [they/them, e/em/eir]
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        1 year ago

        yeah, we’re not gonna agree on this and i don’t feel like spending time on a debate, especially since you’re downplaying american imperialism. have a good day, peace.