Senior Pakistani officials disseminated the theory that no firefight ever took place, and that whomever the U.S. forces captured, they executed him outside the compound, and took his body away on a helicopter.[27]
Hamid Gul, the former head of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), stated in an interview with CNN that he believed bin Laden had died many years ago, and that the official death story given out by the American media was a hoax.[28] Furthermore, he thinks the American government knew about bin Laden's death for years, "They must have known that he had died some years ago so they were waiting. They were keeping this story on the ice and they were looking for an appropriate moment and it couldn't be a better moment because President Obama had to fight off his first salvo in his next year's election as he runs for the presidential and for the White House and I think it is a very appropriate time to come out, bring this out of the closet."[28]
Good point. Still, the whole thing is super fucking shady though. You mean to tell me not one of those wet work seal goons didn't pose for a selfie with the body? Also you'd think the most notoriously wanted man of the 21st century wouldn't have been blasted all over the airwaves, even a censored photo?
That happened with Saddam and it's generally seen as a bad thing by pretty much everyone who isn't a deranged psycho who enjoys watching death. So I can absolutely imagine that they went to great lengths to avoid a repeat in this case.
Plus, the raid exposed the existence of a then-unknown stealthy Blackhawk helicopter. Explain the logic behind that trade-off, if the killing of OBL was faked in some way.
Plus, the raid exposed the existence of a then-unknown stealthy Blackhawk helicopter. Explain the logic behind that trade-off, if the killing of OBL was faked in some way.
Has anything changed much with the world knowing about the helicopter now?
Yeah, it was fishy how fast they got rid of the body. My theory is that maybe Bin Laden died a few years before the raid, then when the US could confirm that they just went to the last place he had stayed at and killed a random dude so they could say they had offed him. He was an old man, i hear he had kidney problems, he was constantly in hiding which makes treatment options limited, so it's not unlikely that he died of natural causes. I mean, maybe the official story is true, i really have no idea. But i could see it playing out this way as well.
I can't imagine he's still alive, that would be such an easy way to flip the USA off. Just make a video that shows you were alive after the raid, holding up a few newspapers with articles about your death, instant PR kick to the balls for America. I can't see him pass up that opportunity.
There's pictures of the body, classified. They're classified because the SEALs committed a war crime - they went up to his dead body, put the barrel of the gun at the top of his head, and fired, which spit his skull partially in half. They refer to it as "canoeing" their victims. Desecrating corpses is a warcrime and has been committed frequently by the navy SEALs. That's also why, in the photo of Obama and Hillary and all the other people looking at the photos, they all look shocked. It's a gruesome one.
Not only is Osama not dead, he also never existed and was a character invented by the USA in order to help provide justification for their illegal war.
To an extent. The one-shot All Hail the King shows that there actually is a real Mandarin. And the upcoming Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings will probably have him.
Some guy starting his stock photo modeling career is approached by the state department and asked if he wants to play america's public enemy #1 for a couple decades.
I'll willing to be generous and say there is like a 20% chance that they didn't just kill some random person if anyone at all I'm that raid.
deleted by creator
/* Jump cuts to pictures of Gaddafi * god I hate Obama.
Can't fathom why we didn't have total control over the photos that got out of that, when we did have it for the Osama raid
deleted by creator
Yes, this is exactly what I was sarcastically referring to.
deleted by creator
No worries!
🙈
Bin Laden lived, changed his name to Bashar al-Assad, and is now bringing the downfall of anyone who opposes him
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden_death_conspiracy_theories#In_Pakistan seems plausible
Trusting a spy?
Good point. Still, the whole thing is super fucking shady though. You mean to tell me not one of those wet work seal goons didn't pose for a selfie with the body? Also you'd think the most notoriously wanted man of the 21st century wouldn't have been blasted all over the airwaves, even a censored photo?
That happened with Saddam and it's generally seen as a bad thing by pretty much everyone who isn't a deranged psycho who enjoys watching death. So I can absolutely imagine that they went to great lengths to avoid a repeat in this case.
Plus, the raid exposed the existence of a then-unknown stealthy Blackhawk helicopter. Explain the logic behind that trade-off, if the killing of OBL was faked in some way.
Has anything changed much with the world knowing about the helicopter now?
Not that we'd notice. But why expose that if the raid wasn't real? Just fake-crash a regular one instead.
You're right but boy do I want to believe it was hoaxed lol
Yeah, it was fishy how fast they got rid of the body. My theory is that maybe Bin Laden died a few years before the raid, then when the US could confirm that they just went to the last place he had stayed at and killed a random dude so they could say they had offed him. He was an old man, i hear he had kidney problems, he was constantly in hiding which makes treatment options limited, so it's not unlikely that he died of natural causes. I mean, maybe the official story is true, i really have no idea. But i could see it playing out this way as well.
I can't imagine he's still alive, that would be such an easy way to flip the USA off. Just make a video that shows you were alive after the raid, holding up a few newspapers with articles about your death, instant PR kick to the balls for America. I can't see him pass up that opportunity.
There's pictures of the body, classified. They're classified because the SEALs committed a war crime - they went up to his dead body, put the barrel of the gun at the top of his head, and fired, which spit his skull partially in half. They refer to it as "canoeing" their victims. Desecrating corpses is a warcrime and has been committed frequently by the navy SEALs. That's also why, in the photo of Obama and Hillary and all the other people looking at the photos, they all look shocked. It's a gruesome one.
link?
deleted by creator
:michael-laugh:
Thanks, i wasn't aware of that. "We couldn't show the body because we did a war crime" makes a frightening amount of sense for US special forces.
Not only is Osama not dead, he also never existed and was a character invented by the USA in order to help provide justification for their illegal war.
deleted by creator
deleted by creator
They even sponsored an F1 team in the 70s!
deleted by creator
deleted by creator
deleted by creator
To an extent. The one-shot All Hail the King shows that there actually is a real Mandarin. And the upcoming Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings will probably have him.
Some guy starting his stock photo modeling career is approached by the state department and asked if he wants to play america's public enemy #1 for a couple decades.
Well, maybe a character based on a true story.
they were probably like:
“Goddammit, this isn’t Osama Bin Laden, this is cousin, Omasa Bid Laden!”
“Fuck, the general wont be happy about this”
“Not if he never learns about it”
“Are you crazy? This means he’s still out there!”
“Look, do you want to spend another 10 years looking for him?”
“…”