• Chomsky [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    I'll willing to be generous and say there is like a 20% chance that they didn't just kill some random person if anyone at all I'm that raid.

    • Sen_Jen [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Bin Laden lived, changed his name to Bashar al-Assad, and is now bringing the downfall of anyone who opposes him

    • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Senior Pakistani officials disseminated the theory that no firefight ever took place, and that whomever the U.S. forces captured, they executed him outside the compound, and took his body away on a helicopter.[27]

      Hamid Gul, the former head of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), stated in an interview with CNN that he believed bin Laden had died many years ago, and that the official death story given out by the American media was a hoax.[28] Furthermore, he thinks the American government knew about bin Laden's death for years, "They must have known that he had died some years ago so they were waiting. They were keeping this story on the ice and they were looking for an appropriate moment and it couldn't be a better moment because President Obama had to fight off his first salvo in his next year's election as he runs for the presidential and for the White House and I think it is a very appropriate time to come out, bring this out of the closet."[28]

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden_death_conspiracy_theories#In_Pakistan seems plausible

        • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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          4 years ago

          Good point. Still, the whole thing is super fucking shady though. You mean to tell me not one of those wet work seal goons didn't pose for a selfie with the body? Also you'd think the most notoriously wanted man of the 21st century wouldn't have been blasted all over the airwaves, even a censored photo?

          • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            That happened with Saddam and it's generally seen as a bad thing by pretty much everyone who isn't a deranged psycho who enjoys watching death. So I can absolutely imagine that they went to great lengths to avoid a repeat in this case.

            Plus, the raid exposed the existence of a then-unknown stealthy Blackhawk helicopter. Explain the logic behind that trade-off, if the killing of OBL was faked in some way.

            • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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              4 years ago

              Plus, the raid exposed the existence of a then-unknown stealthy Blackhawk helicopter. Explain the logic behind that trade-off, if the killing of OBL was faked in some way.

              Has anything changed much with the world knowing about the helicopter now?

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah, it was fishy how fast they got rid of the body. My theory is that maybe Bin Laden died a few years before the raid, then when the US could confirm that they just went to the last place he had stayed at and killed a random dude so they could say they had offed him. He was an old man, i hear he had kidney problems, he was constantly in hiding which makes treatment options limited, so it's not unlikely that he died of natural causes. I mean, maybe the official story is true, i really have no idea. But i could see it playing out this way as well.

      I can't imagine he's still alive, that would be such an easy way to flip the USA off. Just make a video that shows you were alive after the raid, holding up a few newspapers with articles about your death, instant PR kick to the balls for America. I can't see him pass up that opportunity.

      • SerLava [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        There's pictures of the body, classified. They're classified because the SEALs committed a war crime - they went up to his dead body, put the barrel of the gun at the top of his head, and fired, which spit his skull partially in half. They refer to it as "canoeing" their victims. Desecrating corpses is a warcrime and has been committed frequently by the navy SEALs. That's also why, in the photo of Obama and Hillary and all the other people looking at the photos, they all look shocked. It's a gruesome one.

    • Randomdog [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Not only is Osama not dead, he also never existed and was a character invented by the USA in order to help provide justification for their illegal war.

    • richietozier4 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      they were probably like:

      “Goddammit, this isn’t Osama Bin Laden, this is cousin, Omasa Bid Laden!”

      “Fuck, the general wont be happy about this”

      “Not if he never learns about it”

      “Are you crazy? This means he’s still out there!”

      “Look, do you want to spend another 10 years looking for him?”

      “…”

  • ProfessorAdonisCnut [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    That's nothing compared to Johnny Cash being the first person outside the USSR to know Stalin had died

    • ActaCaboose [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Johnny Cash only knew about Stalin's death because he was working as a code-breaker at the time, so that was more of Cash just being in the right place at the right time, while the featured tweet implies that the Rock has ties to senior-level US government intellegence spooks.

  • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    If you or your unit just shot bin laden, and you are a 22 year old kid from Kansas that joined the military to get of town, the rock would be one of the first few people you drunkenly snap chat about it.

    However I know samoans are way over represented in the military so there could be an interesting angle here. I am down for president rock and samoan statehood.

  • Randomdog [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    "I got friends in high places and low places"

    Vince McMahon fits both categories.

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      there needs to be a McMahon emoji taken from that meme where he gets increasingly torqued

      • longhorn617 [any]
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        4 years ago

        I can't even get my Ric Flair emotes. I actually submitted a Rock emote that would be great for this situation.

    • drinkinglakewater [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Didn't John Cena announce Bin Laden's death live on tv before the White House released a statement?

      • Morosaurus [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        I dunno if he announced it before the White House but I remember seeing a clip of him saying something about Bin Laden "being brought to a permanent end" which was a very funny way to say it

        • RobotnikFeminism [they/them]
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          4 years ago

          WWE has an entire dictionary of weird terminology to use instead of normal words.

          Professional wrestling --- > "Sports Entertainment"

          Wrestlers ---> "WWE Superstars" (male); "WWE Divas" (females)

          Fans --- > "The WWE Universe"

          Belt --- > "Title"

          Killed ---> "brought to a permanent end"

          Chris Benoit ---> " "