Forgive me, but I'm reading through r/qanoncasualties, I've been watching the QAnon documentary on HBO, and I've listened to QAnon Anonymous for at least a year. I find the subject totally fascinating. QAnon is like this twisted mirror image of socialism.

Basically it looks like this creepy fucking boomer named Jim Watkins and his weird shitposter son Ron created QAnon to bring more traffic to 8chan, which they own but which has never made any money for them. (I'm far from an expert on QAnon but the documentary makes a compelling case, let's say.)

I've seen the first three episodes of the documentary, where people are starting to literally kill each other over QAnon, and the Watkins' boys just don't fucking care. This may even go beyond CIA-level psychopathy, or is at least at a similar level. Meanwhile, r/qanoncasualties has story after story of friends and relatives losing their fucking minds, their jobs, all their relationships, and often killing themselves because of QAnon. It's just absolutely insane.

I've also spent maybe about two years "studying" (listening to podcasts on) Zizek and started drifting toward Marxism at around the same time a lot of these people were turning to QAnon. I haven't lost any close friends or family because of this, but it's definitely strained some relationships. (All of my close friends and relatives are either liberals, Berners, social democrats, or even beyond.)

When normies or liberals talk to QAnon people, they clearly think that the QAnon people are insane (although to some extent the average American believes in at least some parts of QAnon—including me, if Jeffrey Epstein counts as being part of QAnon, although I can't recall ever hearing a QAnon person mention him).

When normies or liberals talk to Marxists, does the same reaction take place? Do they just deploy horseshoe theory on us? Would they prefer to talk to QAnon folks over Marxists? Do they think that Marxists, who point to systems as the main issue, are really the same as QAnon folks, who blame all the woes of the world on a shadowy cabal of Satanic pedophiles?

To sum up: how do your non-Marxist / non-anarchist friends and family treat you when you talk about politics?

  • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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    3 years ago

    I try to downplay how far left I am around my parents, but they still get upset sometimes when I express my anger at every power structure we live under. I usually can make the admit I am right, but that doesn't make them happy. I try not to show anything more than progressive until I am sure I am safe where I am at, and have some friends in that environment. But occasionally I just talk about well established facts of CIA meddling and everyone stares at me like I have lobsters crawling on my head. It's a special kind of insanity to know that things are so, so wrong and have people disagree or keep trying the same solutions that don't work. At least I can dream of a brighter future.

      • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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        3 years ago

        This isn't always them agreeing with arguments, but more like me calling biden a spineless corporate shill who won't meaningfully change anything. This upsets them, but he has the track record to prove it. As for the second one, it doesn't matter how many sources back me up, people just will think I'm crazy for caring or knowing about this. It's an underpinning of society, so it is never supposed to be talked about. It also doesn't help that any kind of anti-government talk(at least in the circles I have lived in) get immediately associated with right-wing politics. So, I immediately have to dig myself out of a hole for just talking about things that have happened. It's worth noting I've spent most of life around middle class individuals, who benefit from the system. They know it hurts people, but they don't want to think about it. I'm thankful for the advice, and I might try it more, but I am not sure how successful it will be.