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  • Teekeeus [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/COVID-vaccines/Turkey-says-China-s-Sinovac-vaccine-is-significantly-effective

    • FarSeerFirelord [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      See, I read that. It still doesn't take away from the numbers coming from the Sinovac Coronavac trials in LatAm. I concede there are some positives like in Serrana, Sau Paulo, Brazil. However, it's a point of attack to discredit China's efforts monetheless. It's so easy to do it too. All the tropes have already bern lined up perfectly to exploit this in western media.

      • anthropicprincipal [any]
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        3 years ago

        Well there are like 10 different Chinese vaccines in various trials.

        The two that have been approved for export might actually have significant problems with efficacy because they were first to market.

        China has its own mRNA vaccine coming out this summer.

        • FarSeerFirelord [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          China has its own mRNA vaccine coming put this summer.

          Source for that? All I've seen so far is that maybe they'll have one by the end of the year. That's plenty of time for the US to offer the Pfizer and Moderna shots to countries in need. You see the ramifications?

          • anthropicprincipal [any]
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            3 years ago

            It is the Fosun one which partners with Biontech.

            Already was in emergency use in Hong Kong in March.

            All that has to happen is native Chinese manufacturing to start.

            • FarSeerFirelord [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              Yeah, but it's been delayed. The reason might have to do with the optics of using the Biontech ones in place of domestic ones.

      • Alaskaball [comrade/them]M
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        3 years ago

        I just read that Gao Fu, the director of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention, just came out saying that their vaccines have a lower success rate of somewhere in the ballpark of 50-70 percent effectiveness and that they need to go back to the drawing board in order to improve their vaccines.

        Of course this just drives another nail into America's coffin, since it proves the PRC definitely stopped the spread of the virus through thorough coordination of the people and the state and not through relying on medical science to save the day after letting the plague rampage for a while.

        • FarSeerFirelord [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Why would this be a nail in America's coffin? The situation is ripe for the US to replace China when it comes to vaccine diplomacy. That's a geopolitical victory for the US, no?

          • Alaskaball [comrade/them]M
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            3 years ago

            No. The U.S has at large focused on itself first and foremost as it's allowed itself to become the most impacted nation by the pandemic thus far. It hardly produces the medical tech and equipment it needs as it outsourced it's industry to cheaper countries, like China. Additionally, capitalists holds the vaccine formulas hostage in exchange for an exorbitant cost. Poor countries would have to sell themselves once again into bondage just tiny shipments of the vaccine should they not be lucky enough to purchase the license to produce it.

            Contrasted with China's efforts to mass-produce medical supplies for global usage and the vaccines that have been made by them is already being distributed globally as well. Their efficiency has simply slid them from providing viral immunity to being viral prophylactics, which helps slow down the spread of the virus significantly from it's previously unchecked pace.

            This is still weighted heavily in China's favor from my perspective.