sue happy crybabies who are literally crying babies, and they are crying because they are dying of painful cancer from your products
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Literally one in a million (6 cases out of 6.86 million doses according to the article).
I didn’t stay up to date on how the European Astrazeneca one went (I think it was that one), but it was a very similar scenario and I’m pretty sure they didn’t find it to be too alarming, ultimately.
That’s not to say an investigation is bad or anything, but I’m guessing it’ll turn out fine/there seems to be very little cause for alarm at the moment
the shit is that americans are so anti-vax/vax-critical that a 100% success rate would still be questioned.
1 in a million might as well mean that you will die if you get the vax for these types...
Lol ok not gonna lie; this is the first thing I thought when I heard they were making a vaccine.
I mean...
It doesn't exactly inspire hope to give private access for a company like that to profit off of a deadly virus.
But what do I know? I've never run a software company.
Is it due to the severity of the clots I'm assuming?
Things like birth control cause blood clots in 1 out of every 1000 women and they're still on the shelves lol
I don't know if I'd be more likely or less likely to take a medication if they wrote out "includes monkey virus" on it
On the topic of vaccines, anyone else been keeping up with how the Chinese made vaccines are doing?
https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/COVID-vaccines/Turkey-says-China-s-Sinovac-vaccine-is-significantly-effective
See, I read that. It still doesn't take away from the numbers coming from the Sinovac Coronavac trials in LatAm. I concede there are some positives like in Serrana, Sau Paulo, Brazil. However, it's a point of attack to discredit China's efforts monetheless. It's so easy to do it too. All the tropes have already bern lined up perfectly to exploit this in western media.
Well there are like 10 different Chinese vaccines in various trials.
The two that have been approved for export might actually have significant problems with efficacy because they were first to market.
China has its own mRNA vaccine coming out this summer.
China has its own mRNA vaccine coming put this summer.
Source for that? All I've seen so far is that maybe they'll have one by the end of the year. That's plenty of time for the US to offer the Pfizer and Moderna shots to countries in need. You see the ramifications?
It is the Fosun one which partners with Biontech.
Already was in emergency use in Hong Kong in March.
All that has to happen is native Chinese manufacturing to start.
Yeah, but it's been delayed. The reason might have to do with the optics of using the Biontech ones in place of domestic ones.
I just read that Gao Fu, the director of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention, just came out saying that their vaccines have a lower success rate of somewhere in the ballpark of 50-70 percent effectiveness and that they need to go back to the drawing board in order to improve their vaccines.
Of course this just drives another nail into America's coffin, since it proves the PRC definitely stopped the spread of the virus through thorough coordination of the people and the state and not through relying on medical science to save the day after letting the plague rampage for a while.
Why would this be a nail in America's coffin? The situation is ripe for the US to replace China when it comes to vaccine diplomacy. That's a geopolitical victory for the US, no?
No. The U.S has at large focused on itself first and foremost as it's allowed itself to become the most impacted nation by the pandemic thus far. It hardly produces the medical tech and equipment it needs as it outsourced it's industry to cheaper countries, like China. Additionally, capitalists holds the vaccine formulas hostage in exchange for an exorbitant cost. Poor countries would have to sell themselves once again into bondage just tiny shipments of the vaccine should they not be lucky enough to purchase the license to produce it.
Contrasted with China's efforts to mass-produce medical supplies for global usage and the vaccines that have been made by them is already being distributed globally as well. Their efficiency has simply slid them from providing viral immunity to being viral prophylactics, which helps slow down the spread of the virus significantly from it's previously unchecked pace.
This is still weighted heavily in China's favor from my perspective.
Anyone? No? This topic may have huge implications for geopolitics.
That happens with Moderna and Pfizer, too. The sore arm can last days, but it eventually subsides.
i think it's a problem with the vaccine technology. the same thing happened with AZ, and they're both viral vector vaccines
Yikes. I'm getting J and J tomorrow and this makes me a little nervous. Seems rare enough. I am still going to get it.
Christ. This is almost as bad as when the Pfizer vaccine started giving people a 3rd penis
They will probably be fine, blood clots are only affecting a specific range of people who got J&J. And even then it's a small % who have gotten clots, even fewer who were hospitalized.
It's looking like you have a better chance to get struck by lightning or win the lottery right now. 1/million isn't too worrying. If everyone in America got J&J, the clots wouldn't even be noticed by our healthcare system and I'm sure most of those 500 people would survive.
Has anyone actually got clots from the J&J? I've heard of people getting it from the AZ, but not the J&J.
It doesn't matter anyway. Didn't you all know that vaccines only reduce the severity of symptoms, but don't decrease the chance of catching the disease? My psychiatrist told me so about 2 hours ago.
Which is super fucking fine. The point is to keep people out of hospitals, not keeping people from getting the sniffles.
Yes, but when you have the sniffles, you can still get people sick and put them in the hospital. That's what people around here (Midwest usa, not hexbear) seem to be in denial about.
the first shot is around only 50% effective, but should be near 100% effective in preventing severe symptoms. After the 2nd shot, it should be above 90% in preventing COVID-19. My parents are scheduled for the pfizer/moderna vaccine and that's what the official claims are.
Is this why when I got online to make a vaccine appointment yesterday, every news site was running the same "China ADMITS that its vaccines have low effectiveness" headline?
I doubt it. This low effectiveness thing started on Saturday/Sunday. It's just the current media climate is looking for any potential avenues of attack.
