• camaron28 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I'm sorry, have trans people or vegans used their identity to oppress for thousands of years?

    Religious people are fine, but if you say you are one, within the context of my country the first thing i'm going to think is that you must be VERY right wing.

    • Soleimani [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Religious people are fine, but

      Please self crit.

      within the context of my country

      If you can't think beyond the stereotypes within your national borders, you're the problem.

      • camaron28 [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Oh no, how evil of me to think about the Catholic Church, the Opus Dei, El Yunque or La Conferencia Episcopal because people were talking about religion!!

        Maybe you should also understand why most communist movements in Europe, Russia or China have largely been secular.

        • Soleimani [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Yes. It is bigoted and evil to immediately resort to attacks on your assumptions of other people's beliefs when told to treat your comrades with respect.

          And seriously, how Eurocentric can you get?

          • camaron28 [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Oh, you want to stop my eurocentrism? ok i will.

            Meanwhile you go to Afghanistan and tell them that the fundamentalists propped up by the west are as valid as communists. Deal? I mean, it's not like differents religions in different countries requiere different approaches instead of blanket statements like "religion good" or "religion bad".

            • Soleimani [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Meanwhile you go to Afghanistan and tell them that the fundamentalists propped up by the west are as valid as communists.

              Most would say more.

        • Soleimani [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          No. One. Said. Anything. About Christianity.

          Yes, you need to self crit if you're generalizing this much. Yes, you need to self crit if you can't engage with people in good faith. Yes, you need to self crit if you think all religious people are right-wing Christians.

          You don't solve bigotry by being exclusionary.

          If your past trauma really prevents you from positively engaging with other human beings, you need to seek out a therapist.

            • Soleimani [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              No one said North America. No one said you're home town. No one said White people. No one said Christianity.

              This is about the place of religious leftists in the leftist movement.

                • Soleimani [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  Someone is telling you to tolerate other people in your movement. They're promoting inclusivity. That's all this thread is about.

                  If you don't want to address the issue, that's fine. If you want to derail the discussion, you're being reactionary.