Medicare for all? No thanks, I don't want to pay for other people's healthcare. I like private insurance, where I pay for other people's healthcare and for the salaries of blood sucking middlemen who's entire purpose is telling me NO! when I need healthcare.

  • pooh [she/her, any]
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    3 years ago

    A pretty clear majority of people in the US (over 70%) do support M4A, though. The real problem is that the US is a bourgeois dictatorship that refuses to address the needs or wants of its citizens.

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      And many white Americans don't mind suffering if it means black Americans are suffering more (though like someone pointed out here, 70+% of Americans support M4A though)

      • Hoodoo [love/loves]
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        3 years ago

        I've always wondered about this claim. I grew up in the South and even my most racist relatives never mentioned caring if social programs made minorities suffer more.

        Beyond the semi-related 'welfare queen' narrative anyways.

        • star_wraith [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          It's not like people are explicitly saying (or even consciously thinking) "well I like universal health care, but I don't want black people to have it". It usually gets laundered mentally through discrimination towards "the poor", who in a lot white folks' minds are usually black people (and that's where the welfare queen trope comes in). It's in the view that "the poor" are just looking for handouts and don't deserve help because I work hard and they don't.

          • Hoodoo [love/loves]
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            3 years ago

            That sounds a lot more like what I've heard. Thanks for explaining this!

  • LibsEatPoop4 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I've come to believe that most people hold extremely contradictory views. You can point them out but then theyll pivot to something else and try to deflect. Maybe you can convince some people but overall therr had to be some other way to engage with these people.

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Its almost like their consciousness is constructed on some kind on falseness.

  • Wojackhorseman2 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    telling me NO! when I need healthcare

    We all have a dom/sub thing going on with healthcsre

    • Zuki [he/him, comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Ah, well here's the full story. I remembered the line "and the salaries of blood-sucking middlemen" but when I searched that line on twitter, I just found one tweet with one like and nothing else. So, I thought it was strange there wasn't a tweet with thousands of likes but, I posted it anyway. So yes, all credit belongs to Internet Hippo.

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    There is a real lack of imagination among a lot of Americans that makes it much easier to imagine and promote equal suffering than anything more positive

  • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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    3 years ago

    The American Dream is to just buy health care from a big health care vending machine.

    We will continue to insist the health care system doesn't work until we get that solution.