• @Kaplya
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    7 months ago

    My fellow liberals, Mussolini wasn’t voted into power.

    Mussolini was literally invited into power to “restore order” by the liberals themselves because they didn’t know how to deal with the communists taking over the country.

    Mussolini’s fascism was the first successful test case of a liberal experiment to brutally crush Leninism in Europe following the Bolshevik Revolution. Hitler followed in Mussolini’s footsteps.

    • CTHlurker [he/him]
      hexbear
      68
      7 months ago

      Even funnier, Mussolini was invited into power by the litteral King of Italy, in a move that liberal historians are still struggling to describe in a way that doesn't mention "class interest of the aristocracy"

      • @Kaplya
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        7 months ago

        Fascist-Catholic-Social Democrat-Liberal coalition government, united under Mussolini, against Communist-Socialist opposition.

        Truly the grandest coalition of all time.

      • D3FNC [any]
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        14
        7 months ago

        Boy, that really just lays it all out right there for anyone to see, doesn't it

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    107
    7 months ago

    I would be concerned if you voted for either and didn't revolt.

    Like how fucking whipped are westerners where we can't even think about revolution?

    • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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      78
      7 months ago

      I definitely remember the whole "We're gonna burn this down if Trump was elected" momentum quickly turn to "We meant figuratively" and then "That means voting!"

      There's a big reason why I have grown distant from some of my friends and family and it's basically that I know I can't trust them anymore

      More interested in keeping the peace than anything else

      • MerryChristmas [any]
        hexbear
        15
        7 months ago

        There's a big reason why I have grown distant from some of my friends and family and it's basically that I know I can't trust them anymore

        I'd felt something similar for a while and I couldn't put my finger on it. They all claimed to see the fascist rot and then they stuffed the genie right back into the bottle. You're right, the trust is just gone.

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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    87
    7 months ago

    Watching liberals use electoralism to jerry-rig a justification for embracing fascism has been both predictable and fascinating to witness

    To any future internet archeologists let it be known we knew exactly what was going on and don't let them tell you otherwise

  • micnd90 [he/him,any]
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    7 months ago

    Imagine thinking your vote matters in Hitler vs. Mussolini election

    Imagine thinking your vote matters in Democrat vs. Republican election

    sadness

  • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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    80
    7 months ago

    Liberals be like: "Revolution is a deranged fantasy for violent weirdos. We have to rely on the system in order to make things better. Even though the system will only ever result in fascist outcomes but it's okay because this guy is only 98% fascist unlike the 100% fascist competitor.

    • Redcuban1959 [any]
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      7 months ago

      vote for Mussolini as harm reduction then take up arms against him

      ????

      I suppose what this person means is that you can vote for a right-wing candidate and then pressure him to do things that might be considered left-wing or something like that. But the problem is that Democratic voters aren't going to do that, except for a few groups of people. Most Democratic politicians win elections simply because they are not Republicans, and as such, when they are elected to office, they do nothing useful.

    • FortifiedAttack [he/him]
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      19
      7 months ago

      You could give the fascist power, then realize that he can no longer be stopped, precisely because of the power you gave him.

    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
      hexbear
      18
      7 months ago

      Couldn't you just skip straight to the taking up arms part and save a lot of trouble?

      • g_g [they/them]
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        9
        7 months ago

        if nothing else save yourself the long wait in a line with no water

        • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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          10
          7 months ago

          America has a hilarious electoral system, and I mean in how the election process is handled in this case. Canada is really funny as well where elections come out of absolutely no where and you're not sure whether it's municipal, provincial or federal for most of it, the while thing last two weeks or so and whatever building in your district that the most old people gather at normally is where you go to vote, you only fill one ballot per election and it takes like 5 seconds.

      • D3FNC [any]
        hexbear
        8
        7 months ago

        Right but then they'd lose the argument so

    • MerryChristmas [any]
      hexbear
      18
      7 months ago

      Only if you tear up the sticker on the way out of your polling place.

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      16
      7 months ago

      "mister Mussolini you deserve to be shot directly in the head but I will do my faithful duty to ritually prostrate myself at the voting booth in your honor"

  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
    hexbear
    58
    7 months ago

    Bravely voting for the guy who will immediately and enthusiasticly adopt the policies of the guy he didn't vote for is actually a very good analogy for voting for the Dems.

  • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
    hexagon
    hexbear
    53
    7 months ago

    There's always a secret third option: kind-vladimir-ilyich

    (Dear fbi i mean this specifically in the hitler v mussolini example, also you guys haven't approved my vacation days around thanksgiving)

    • Comp4 [she/her]
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      24
      7 months ago

      You need to talk to Susy in HR if you want those vacation days approved.

    • ikiru@lemmy.ml
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      7 months ago

      I literally just had a lib admit in a recent thread that his voting for Biden was a vote for "genocide" and they justified it because it made them feel safer than Trump's hypothetical 'worse genocide'. Then someone else chimed in support by saying that they would 'happily wash their hands in Palestinian blood' to protect reproductive rights in the US—which were lost anyway.

      We're doomed.

    • christian [he/him]
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      11
      7 months ago

      Even reading that, I'm still not 100% confident the op quote isn't good satire and the rest is an act to get that quote off. Like this one-liner gets the point across better than basically any shit I've seen anywhere. Unbelievable that he just came up with that banger while seriously believing it.

    • mar_k [he/him]
      hexbear
      24
      7 months ago

      Also seeing a lot of liberals on tiktok telling everyone to "call your elected representatives to stop the genocide in Palestine"

      • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
        hexbear
        10
        7 months ago

        I mean it's not a bad thing to do, the problem is that liberals see it as either the only option or (even worse) sufficient.

        • mar_k [he/him]
          hexbear
          5
          7 months ago

          Tbf I'm seeing libs call for boycotts too. But they're pretty much exclusively mentioning starbucks, mcdonalds, and disney

          • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
            hexbear
            3
            7 months ago

            Many libs are undergoing an expansion of their political horizons and even radicalization right now. Libs are de-libbing around the world.

    • @daisy
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      6
      7 months ago

      Protests are uncivil.

    • @Kaplya
      hexbear
      26
      7 months ago

      Adult in the Room here, I approve this message.

      That’s how an adult who understands politics should behave. People who vote for Biden are as brave as the heroes of Stalingrad in my eyes.

        • @Kaplya
          hexbear
          3
          7 months ago

          Our most important mission is to pick up the ballots and bring them to the boxes under fascist Republican fire. Truly the bravest of all heroes. Everyone, with me!

  • FuckyWucky [none/use name]
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    7 months ago

    if these were my choices and if there was no communist movement in my country i would try my best to flee.

    • HexbearGPT [comrade/them]
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      7 months ago

      So should US communists be considering this option now? Or after the 2024 election?